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Re: I have received a $100k sponsorship for Ladybird browser

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Post by DANmode »

Sakos wrote: post #59
LeFantome wrote: post #46

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As a multi-decade long Firefox user, I am going to say no. Firefox is produced by a single company and its users are completely beholden to the choices that the company makes. In some ways, Chromium is closer to being the Linux of browsers. There are multiple “distributions” or instances of the technology ( Chrome, Edge, Brave, and others ). There is at least some collaboration on the core. Chromium is not developed…

Agreed. There are far more differences/changes between Chromium-based browsers than Firefox ones (which just remove Mozilla telemetry or provide a way to use old-style extensions). It really was a huge shame that they chose to base Edge on Chromium instead and I feel it points to clear issues in Firefox that prevent it from being the Linux of browsers. I do wonder what's so wrong with FF that nobody wants to base the…

If you're going to start less secure than state of the art, why not fork state of the art, or start your own?

This appears to be the mindset, anyway.

Re: I have received a $100k sponsorship for Ladybird browser

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Post by jraph »

dougall wrote: post #70
jraph wrote: post #20

Ladybird looks amazing. Just as I was losing faith that building a browser from scratch today was an almost impossible task that only a big company could pull off, they proved otherwise. I compiled it and added packages to install on openSUSE for this in the readme... which was easy because you don't need much to build this browser! And it builds in a few minutes. I wish Discord was not mandatory to interact with the…

Is there a reason you call out Discord and not GitHub?

The reason is that I'm trying to keep my messages effective. If I complain against everything at the same time, I risk being ignored.

I don't like the closed nature of GitHub neither. I hope the free software world move away at some point.

The open source world can't seem to avoid locking itself in those closed tools, I would really like if we stopped doing this.

I chose Discord because I see it as a bigger issue than GitHub, with which one can interact with standard tools like emails and git, and basic stuff work without JS. So one can both refuse to run non-free code and interact with GitHub. Still not ideal and concerning.

Try to go back to the early 2000s and tell someone that the open source world is going to trust MS to host all their stuff. You would probably have difficulties to be taken seriously.

(Although it is to be noted that back then many people used SourceForge which was also proprietary)

Re: I have received a $100k sponsorship for Ladybird browser

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Post by fragmede »

marcinzm wrote: post #118
andybak wrote: post #97

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I'm more concerned about the people that need help with something, but don't ask on Discord for any number of reasons. I suspect 1000 people use Google to solve a problem for every 1 that joins a Discord and asks.

That depends. Would you take a public forum where no one ever answers questions and fixes are never implemented and the contributors feel burned out, or a Discord where questions do get answered? The OP clearly said their project got significantly more involvement since moving to Discord. The problem with lack of community involvement is that it puts more work on the contributors which means less questions are answer…

That's a helluva false dichotomy you've got going on there. How about a forum that shows up in the search results in Google when I ask it about my problem? Without me needing to bother or wait for someone else to respond, especially if it's the middle of the night.

My kingdom for a Discord bot to slurp up all the messages and LLM me an FAQ.

Re: I have received a $100k sponsorship for Ladybird browser

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Post by YoshiRulz »

Y_Y wrote: post #79
Sakos wrote: post #59

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Agreed. There are far more differences/changes between Chromium-based browsers than Firefox ones (which just remove Mozilla telemetry or provide a way to use old-style extensions). It really was a huge shame that they chose to base Edge on Chromium instead and I feel it points to clear issues in Firefox that prevent it from being the Linux of browsers. I do wonder what's so wrong with FF that nobody wants to base the…

> I do wonder what's so wrong with FF that nobody wants to base their fork on it. It's compatibility. I use Firefox now it less exclusively, and sometimes I'll need to go on some "normie" website to book a flight or something and the Continue button will be broken or some shit. Seems like lots of web devs will just make the sure works in Chrome and call it a day.

I find that faking a Chrome User-Agent works in half of those cases, YMMV.

Re: I have received a $100k sponsorship for Ladybird browser

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Post by ellis0n »

akling wrote: post #10
hosteur wrote: post #9

This is great news. Congratulations Andreas. I am very impressed by your work. Can you shed some light on who’s sponsoring? Any strings attached?

Thank you! The sponsor has asked to remain anonymous for now. There are no strings attached, although we do stay in touch. :)

Have a project. Tweeted to you

Re: I have received a $100k sponsorship for Ladybird browser

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Post by marginalia_nu »

samwillis wrote: post #105
awesomekling wrote: post #5

Hello friends! I am very excited about this indeed :) If you’d like to know more about Ladybird, I did a presentation about it at the Web Engines Hackfest in Spain just two weeks ago: https://youtu.be/De8N1zrQwRs

Andreas has just had a second one! > In a surprising twist, I have just received a second $100,000 sponsorship for Ladybird development! > This one came in the form of an anonymous cryptocurrency donation, so now I need to talk to my tax accountant ASAP and figure out what to do.. https://twitter.com/awesomekling/status/1670440822129532928

I guess it has to be the same guy feeling generous, but I just got a driveby dono of $100,000 in crypto as well :O

Re: I have received a $100k sponsorship for Ladybird browser

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Post by recursivedoubts »

DANmode wrote: post #143
rmuratov wrote: post #92

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I thought htmx is just a library, does it need support by the browser?

Make it natively supported, watch it catch on like wildfire if the browser gets any traction with devs.

@akling i'd be happy to chat about this if you are interested in extending HTML as a hypermedia. I'm the creator of htmx, and I don't think it should have to exist: it's what HTML should have evolved into.

Re: I have received a $100k sponsorship for Ladybird browser

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Post by eep_social »

marginalia_nu wrote: post #156
samwillis wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Andreas has just had a second one! > In a surprising twist, I have just received a second $100,000 sponsorship for Ladybird development! > This one came in the form of an anonymous cryptocurrency donation, so now I need to talk to my tax accountant ASAP and figure out what to do.. https://twitter.com/awesomekling/status/1670440822129532928

I guess it has to be the same guy feeling generous, but I just got a driveby dono of $100,000 in crypto as well :O

!!

Congrats! Sounds pretty amazing coming right on the heels of your decision to go full time. I have so many questions — hope you’ll put out an update when you’re done celebrating ;)

Re: I have received a $100k sponsorship for Ladybird browser

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Post by FpUser »

npn wrote: post #77
FpUser wrote: post #27

Congrats for such a nice acknowledgement of your work. While looking at their other project I am curious that the author has decided to invent their own memory safe language currently implemented as transpiler to C++ written in Rust. Why not to just use Rust as their system language. I can imagine potential nightmares when debugging such concoction.

> written in Rust What? From my knowledge Jakt is written in C++ and Jakt itself, not Rust. Sure the first implementation was written in Rust but it was quickly replaced when Adreas took over the project.

How do they debug Jakt code? I mean other than dumping things to screen which is not very pleasant experience.

Re: I have received a $100k sponsorship for Ladybird browser

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Post by pabs3 »

toastercat wrote: post #69
yrro wrote: post #67

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Have you considered logging what's said in each channel and publishing it to your project's web site?

That makes me think, has anyone created a Discord bot that automatically archives chats? Preferably as HTML files similar to Pidgin? That would be great.

Pidgin supports Discord, so you could simply republish Pidgin HTML log files.
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