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The redesign is a one-time cost. Lost sales in the EU will be ongoing until it happens.
That's true, but a new product line has on-going update costs and warranty support costs as well.
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To pick one, how does GDPR conflict with this battery regulation?
"Some of which". The people on here saying phone OSes should be open source and unlocked to make them last longer will find the ecodesign and security regulations actually encourage locking them down so you can't break them.
could you specify the actual GDPR regulations in question which clearly conflict with these battery regulations (without any creative contrivance required on our part)?
or are you saying there isn't a conflict in that case (in which case, which ones do?) that part wasn't clear
It matters little that on many devices battery is always engaged, even if device is plugged into a wall. My Dell's laptop battery died even though I probably used the laptop disconnected from external power source for less than 10 hours over its lifetime (two years). Interestingly, I had to physically remove the battery to be able to use it again when plugged into a wall, it wouldn't even turn on with a dead battery,…
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"Some of which". The people on here saying phone OSes should be open source and unlocked to make them last longer will find the ecodesign and security regulations actually encourage locking them down so you can't break them.
is that a fact? I'm not sure. could you specify the actual GDPR regulations in question which clearly conflict with these battery regulations (without any creative contrivance required on our part)? or are you saying there isn't a conflict in that case (in which case, which ones do?) that part wasn't clear
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is that a fact? I'm not sure. could you specify the actual GDPR regulations in question which clearly conflict with these battery regulations (without any creative contrivance required on our part)? or are you saying there isn't a conflict in that case (in which case, which ones do?) that part wasn't clear
I did not say the GDPR conflicts with battery replacement, no.
Removable batteries with aftermarket suppliers way less costly than factory originals.
Small enough to fit in the pocket easily, or flip form for versatility.
Each battery lasting over 2 weeks and you could stockpile them for extended off-grid use.
External battery chargers included.
Tactile keypads.
Physical connection for external antenna for better reception, as well as audio interface for hands-free car use, analog headgear etc.
Things that made original smart phones smart:
USB at least plus possibly Bluetooth connection for use as a modem or virtual com or ethernet port as an interface to PC for internet access/faxing, as well as mass storage mode so the phone's file system appears no differently than a regular external drive.
Free downloads of manufacturers' PC software to interface phone to PC, for file management, text/picture/video message composition/viewing, personalized backup/restoration, etc.
Removable Memory Stick (Sony) or SD card.
Prices no higher than $500, which itself was too extravagant to be accepted by many, mostly those requiring it for business.
Superior OS compared to either Android or IOS.
Email & internet access provided by cell carrier without need for special mobile consideration on web sites.
Full manufacturer support independent of cell carrier.
Without these a phone can not be very smart.
When the iPhone appeared with exorbitant pricing and lacking the traditional smart features, plus substituting dumb things like non-removable battery, it was too bad people settled for that.
Things that made original cell phones not dumb: Removable batteries with aftermarket suppliers way less costly than factory originals. Small enough to fit in the pocket easily, or flip form for versatility. Each battery lasting over 2 weeks and you could stockpile them for extended off-grid use. External battery chargers included. Tactile keypads. Physical connection for external antenna for better reception, as well…
Power users / tech steeped people like us will care a lot about the original cell phones’ antennas, tactile keypads. But 90% of the public don’t care. And the 10% who are people like us cannot continue using our niche products with no interoperability with iOS/Android, if we expect to keep up with the rest of the society that has now been accustomed to a sealed slab.
Basically, I disagree with the premise that people “settled” for it - the majority a car when they were accustomed to riding horses.
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I feel like those rarer circumstances can be handled pretty easily with a portable battery bank, and also pull double duty for any other USB devices you might have. With my 14 Pro Max I charge my phone every 2-3 days, and I'm not letting it get down to Personally, at least, I'll take the sleeker design vs. an easily swap-able battery. Thankfully, it sounds like the EU law doesn't actually require it be replaceable in…
If you held a 2014 Galaxy Note 4 in one hand, and a modern iPhone in the other, I think you'd notice that the sleekness factor is not that different.
Galaxy Note 4
Dimensions 153.5 x 78.6 x 8.5 mm (6.04 x 3.09 x 0.33 in) Weight 176 g (6.21 oz)
iPhone 14 Pro
Dimensions 146.7 x 71.5 x 7.8 mm (5.78 x 2.81 x 0.31 in) Weight 172 g (6.07 oz)
iPhone 14 Pro Max
Dimensions 160.7 x 77.6 x 7.9 mm (6.33 x 3.06 x 0.31 in) Weight 240 g (8.47 oz)
240 g? What did they put into that phone?
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I did not say the GDPR conflicts with battery replacement, no.
which one conflicts with this proposed replaceable battery legislation?
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Before we standardized on micro USB, lots of phones had ports easily three times the width of USB-C. We were ok with that back then, so why would two USB-C sized ports next to each other be so bad? In return, all your gizmos and chargers continue to work in the transition period. Or, just make the new port a barrel connector like a headphone jack, just with more segments. Bonus points if you can plug in an actual hea…
Why do I want a headphone jack on my phone? I don’t. It’s all Bluetooth now. I like wireless headphones. But you should be free to buy them and we can both vote with equally with our wallets. Go buy phones that have the 3.5mm jacks and send the signal that consumers still want plugs invented in the 1950s. If that’s what you want to signal. You have a great way to tell Apple if you like what they are doing! So do I. M…