If we have a lawyer in the room, would tortious interference with a contract or the DMCA anti-circumvention clause apply here? (Setting aside the question of jurisdiction.)
YouTube Tells Open-Source Privacy Software ‘Invidious’ to Shut Down
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#22How long before Chrome changes their license to disallow ad blocking? Why should users think they own their whole screen, after all? "We estimate we can sell up to 80% of the visual field before inducing seizures!"
As long as we use Chrome, we're basically only giving away our privacy, control and data more and more with not much that we can do about.
Don't use Chrome
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
Brave and Firefox on Android blocks ads just fine.
Sadly I suspect that may change. Manifest v3 was added to FF in 109 which is why I am on ESR and will probably stay on it as long as I can. Mozilla get funding from Google and that could potentially come with the price of blocking ad-blockers using manifest v3 at some point.
they've explicitly said it won't. If somehow that ever changes you'll see huge news about it.
Re: YouTube Tells Open-Source Privacy Software ‘Invidious’ to Shut Down
#24How long before Chrome changes their license to disallow ad blocking? Why should users think they own their whole screen, after all? "We estimate we can sell up to 80% of the visual field before inducing seizures!"
I sort of want a client that does the exact opposite. Click on all ads in the background and provide bogus randomized client data, in essence costing companies money for no gain and rendering advertising useless.
Tools like this exist, but by using them you run the risk of having your IP flagged by anti-fraud tools and potentially blacklisted. Not because those tools have an issue with the specific tools involved, but because that kind of behavior makes it look like you're running a click farm.
It could also have negative repercussions for the sites whose ads you're "clicking" on, but whether that's a pro or a con depends on your opinion of each site :P
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#25How is this enforceable?
My understanding is there are hundreds of invidious instances on hundreds of different domains. If they somehow get GitHub to take the codebase down there’s many alternative repo hosts invidious could set up on within an afternoon.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sadly I suspect that may change. Manifest v3 was added to FF in 109 which is why I am on ESR and will probably stay on it as long as I can. Mozilla get funding from Google and that could potentially come with the price of blocking ad-blockers using manifest v3 at some point.
they've explicitly said it won't. If somehow that ever changes you'll see huge news about it.
We've always said the same thing about the Firefox for Android extension ecosystem.
Despite Mozilla's explicit denial of the intention to kill extensions on Android, there is an allow list that effectively bans almost all extensions on Android.
There is no justification for this; extensions work just fine on Firefox for Android, which can be tested using the nightly and jumping through a few artificial hoops.
tl;dr: There's little evidence that there will be any big news once adblockers get finally axed on Firefox.
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#27How long before Chrome changes their license to disallow ad blocking? Why should users think they own their whole screen, after all? "We estimate we can sell up to 80% of the visual field before inducing seizures!"
As long as we use Chrome, we're basically only giving away our privacy, control and data more and more with not much that we can do about. Don't use Chrome
What are the privacy implications if you switch the search to use duck duck go or something else in Chrome? I kind of naively thought that would give you privacy but I need more information.
Re: YouTube Tells Open-Source Privacy Software ‘Invidious’ to Shut Down
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
As long as we use Chrome, we're basically only giving away our privacy, control and data more and more with not much that we can do about. Don't use Chrome
What are the privacy implications if you switch the search to use duck duck go or something else in Chrome? I kind of naively thought that would give you privacy but I need more information.
Im no Google shill, but the results DDG returns are terrible. I suspect for search to work well, the engine needs to know a bit about the user - especially if localising the results is important to you.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
As long as we use Chrome, we're basically only giving away our privacy, control and data more and more with not much that we can do about. Don't use Chrome
What are the privacy implications if you switch the search to use duck duck go or something else in Chrome? I kind of naively thought that would give you privacy but I need more information.
DuckDuckGo may not be tracking you on their website, but Chrome is tracking you all the time. A majority of companies partnered with Google to get data on what sites you visit, and what data Google can share about you.
Not just that, Chrome also doesn't respect your privacy settings across some websites especially owned by Google:
https://www.searchenginejournal.com/google-to-face-5b-lawsui...
They also are going to block your AdBlockers from blocking ads with Manifest V3
Re: YouTube Tells Open-Source Privacy Software ‘Invidious’ to Shut Down
#30How is this enforceable? My understanding is there are hundreds of invidious instances on hundreds of different domains. If they somehow get GitHub to take the codebase down there’s many alternative repo hosts invidious could set up on within an afternoon.
I don’t think this is enforceable at all.
As the invidious developers already explained, they did not agree to any eula or sogn any contract