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Re: Ask HN: Has Google search switched to infinite scrolling for you too now?

#51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For keyboard users it acts as a focus trap, breaking the expected interaction model of the page. You can’t ever reach the footer, at least until the results stop.

Is there a footer on infinite-scroll google?

There is. After 4-5 pages of loading Google gave up and showed me a “More search results” button with a footer below it, along with the legally required things like a link to the privacy policy. But who knows whether it’ll be 4-5 pages in the future?

This is a common problem with infinite scroll websites, not just Google of course.

Re: Ask HN: Has Google search switched to infinite scrolling for you too now?

#52
Yeah, got that here quite a while ago. Though it also comes and goes. It's... I don't know, better and worse at the same time? I notice it, and I feel like after a few page downs I just need a new search, so I need to go back up and start over. I guess it's a step down?

Re: Ask HN: Has Google search switched to infinite scrolling for you too now?

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I'm surprised that I'm asking this because I've been such a fan of Google for years....but does anyone have alternative suggestions for Google products? ( Looking for alternative suggestions for: 1. Google Maps (yikes was it bad when I used it this week) 2. Google Docs (such a frustrating lack of features) 3. Google Drive (it's impossible to find anything when you are sharing docs with someone) 4. Google Search (Chat…

Excel Online is free, got a lost faster and has the vast majority of Excel features. (Full disclosure I work on it)

Wow that's great. I had no idea - thank you.

Re: Ask HN: Has Google search switched to infinite scrolling for you too now?

#54

I'm surprised that I'm asking this because I've been such a fan of Google for years....but does anyone have alternative suggestions for Google products? ( Looking for alternative suggestions for: 1. Google Maps (yikes was it bad when I used it this week) 2. Google Docs (such a frustrating lack of features) 3. Google Drive (it's impossible to find anything when you are sharing docs with someone) 4. Google Search (Chat…

> ChatGPT has spoiled me and I find Google Search to be a large waste of time

I hope you're not blindly trusting answers. I experimented with ChatGPT for a while and (even when using the GPT-4 model) I would get answers that were false but didn't sound too unreasonable. I could have easily been misled if I didn't already know the answers to the things I was asking it.

Re: Ask HN: Has Google search switched to infinite scrolling for you too now?

#55

I'm surprised that I'm asking this because I've been such a fan of Google for years....but does anyone have alternative suggestions for Google products? ( Looking for alternative suggestions for: 1. Google Maps (yikes was it bad when I used it this week) 2. Google Docs (such a frustrating lack of features) 3. Google Drive (it's impossible to find anything when you are sharing docs with someone) 4. Google Search (Chat…

Magic earth,osmand+, Openstreetmaps

Wps, only office, Zoho docs

Offline only office is really nice

Nextcloud

Searxng

Zoho mail is like Gmail a decade ago, protonmail is decent too

Re: Ask HN: Has Google search switched to infinite scrolling for you too now?

#56

Google pruned their index so radically that it doesn't make a difference anymore. For a bit less common stuff, but yet nothing esoteric, I get to the last page around page 4 or 5. And most of the stuff on those 5 pages are mostly SEO-farm copies of the same stuff. I quit looking for recipes on google. Bought a dozen of recipe books last year. fuck that shit.

As an ex chef, escoffier as a basis, then salt fat acid heat by Samin nosrat.

Recipes are a guide for unfamiliar, but once you learn the profiles of each ingredient you can expand greatly.

I know it's a bit off your comments and I certainly search myself for new basis to play with, but I hope it helps :-)

Re: Ask HN: Has Google search switched to infinite scrolling for you too now?

#57
I'm often using Google search in Incognito/Private/InPrivate windows, so I'm getting to see all the, pardon my french, bullshit they're AB testing on users constantly. I've so far seen three distinct forms of infinite scroll (edit: on Mobile, for clarification). One is just infinite scroll with classic results in a list format as usual. The second type I have encountered is that after about 7 to 10 lines of results in typical list format, it will begin showing you everything in a grid format of squircles, where it's harder to read the text previews. The third form of infinite scroll I have seen, and in my opinion the worst, is that after fifteen or so results, it begins showing you results for a separate (but allegedly related) query, and forces you to hit a button to continue seeing results for what you actually wanted to see... and get this, the button to see more doesn't always work. Sometimes it gives an error message. (This one irritated me because I was looking at translations for a song into English, and then the results started showing translations for different songs from the same other language, but not even by the same artist -- very helpful, Google!) Currently for me, in mobile Chrome, both Incognito tabs and normal tabs display infinite scroll of the list type, where results appear more or less in "normal" format, albeit more spaced out than they were a few years ago.

Re: Ask HN: Has Google search switched to infinite scrolling for you too now?

#58

Google pruned their index so radically that it doesn't make a difference anymore. For a bit less common stuff, but yet nothing esoteric, I get to the last page around page 4 or 5. And most of the stuff on those 5 pages are mostly SEO-farm copies of the same stuff. I quit looking for recipes on google. Bought a dozen of recipe books last year. fuck that shit.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed it's harder to find recipes from smaller sites anymore.

Re: Ask HN: Has Google search switched to infinite scrolling for you too now?

#59
It has been infinite scroll for a while for me, which was fine but seems like they did that just to pave way for their second trick: displaying ads interspersed with actual results. IMO the only things distinguishing ads from actual results now is a small "Ad" label. Previously the placement also used to be an indicator, where by muscle memory you'd typically skip first few results.

Few bad quarters and I am sure some PM at Google will write a brief for A/B testing removal of Ad label

Re: Ask HN: Has Google search switched to infinite scrolling for you too now?

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post #59

It has been infinite scroll for a while for me, which was fine but seems like they did that just to pave way for their second trick: displaying ads interspersed with actual results. IMO the only things distinguishing ads from actual results now is a small "Ad" label. Previously the placement also used to be an indicator, where by muscle memory you'd typically skip first few results. Few bad quarters and I am sure som…

The UK ASA will kick that to death very quickly, they are very hot on paid placement being labelled
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