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The workers already replaced by artificial intelligence

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Re: The workers already replaced by artificial intelligence

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Post by Eridrus »

SirMaster wrote: post #10
mcbutterbunz wrote: post #7

I have been wondering lately if this is the fate of all content that can be created or expressed digitally. Music, art, movies, books, software could all be created by AI. The only thing “safe” are tangible goods. I also wonder if this will lead to a dumbing down of certain fields. Why write a book of it never gets published (apart from the enjoyment of it) which leads to fewer writers and a dying art form. It’s a bl…

I don't know about you, but I don't have interest in listening to AI generated music, or exclusively AI generated music. I want to go listen to a real live person perform. Same for all the other performing arts for that matter. I think we are really far away from robots controlled by AI performing a live Broadway musical for example. Heck we are far away from robots singing with the human emotion of a talented singer…

Broadway musicals were disrupted a long time ago, what is left is crumbs for people who have a niche interest; these jobs will not be replaced by AI because it is already an anachronism that has been replaced by other entertainment for the mainstream.

I do think purely AI art isn't really close to disrupting anything since what is being produced without human editing/selection is generally pretty mediocre, as the copy writer in the article mentioned, and we are quite sensitive to the quality of the entertainment we consume, unlike marketing copy.

Re: The workers already replaced by artificial intelligence

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Post by ilaksh »

Simulacra wrote: post #9

Key bit of info for the headlining person: "Mr Meadowcroft can't be certain, but he's pretty sure the AI replaced them." It's possible his employer saw they could use AI and cheaper labor, but not AI alone. AI generated text for publication is not trustworthy at the moment, but it's possible with enough time and input it could be made to be that way. It will depend upon what happens the first time a company puts out…

Have you tried running the book through Eleven Labs?

Re: The workers already replaced by artificial intelligence

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Post by belter »

mcbutterbunz wrote: post #7

I have been wondering lately if this is the fate of all content that can be created or expressed digitally. Music, art, movies, books, software could all be created by AI. The only thing “safe” are tangible goods. I also wonder if this will lead to a dumbing down of certain fields. Why write a book of it never gets published (apart from the enjoyment of it) which leads to fewer writers and a dying art form. It’s a bl…

AI is just a polished Dali, a nicer played Beatles song, a more grammatically correct text on the style of Victor Hugo or Balzac. But its a variation and a copy. What we call AI creations are variations of styles.

Humans what something new, a new style of Playing Guitar, a new way of telling a Movie story, a unique mode of writing a Romance. You won't get that from the current AI technology.

I predict a stronger enforcement of copyrights laws, a stronger enforcement of the use of what is the essence of an artist, a drawing style, a playing mode, a demeanor of an actor. So as to avoid AI copies these personas and makes millions of digital copies of Agent Smiths. It will have to be tested in court but it will be made precedent quite quickly I believe. Or at least the creators will want financial compensation.

You will also see stronger gates around knowledge. Enforcement of personal licensed DRM, with AI entities explicitly forbidden from accessing that content...Open Source Code with updated licenses, that forbids it's use for AI training.

Re: The workers already replaced by artificial intelligence

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Post by soItGoesAgain »

SirMaster wrote: post #10
mcbutterbunz wrote: post #7

I have been wondering lately if this is the fate of all content that can be created or expressed digitally. Music, art, movies, books, software could all be created by AI. The only thing “safe” are tangible goods. I also wonder if this will lead to a dumbing down of certain fields. Why write a book of it never gets published (apart from the enjoyment of it) which leads to fewer writers and a dying art form. It’s a bl…

I don't know about you, but I don't have interest in listening to AI generated music, or exclusively AI generated music. I want to go listen to a real live person perform. Same for all the other performing arts for that matter. I think we are really far away from robots controlled by AI performing a live Broadway musical for example. Heck we are far away from robots singing with the human emotion of a talented singer…

I think the big problem is what this is going to do to human creativity. Even if Human Artists still perform the Music, the AI can quickly and easily write music lyrics and create artwork from the suggestions you give it, and its already quite decent. So what are the people that enjoyed doing that themselves going to do, when Bing can do in minutes what they would have spent a week or two doing. Are humans just going to be project managers, that guide the AI that creates everything (no offence to project managers intended.) The big risk is that doing anything creative ourselves will just seem so completely pointless, that all the work done will be AI assisted, because it will be so easy.

Re: The workers already replaced by artificial intelligence

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Post by pipeline_peak »

SirMaster wrote: post #10
mcbutterbunz wrote: post #7

I have been wondering lately if this is the fate of all content that can be created or expressed digitally. Music, art, movies, books, software could all be created by AI. The only thing “safe” are tangible goods. I also wonder if this will lead to a dumbing down of certain fields. Why write a book of it never gets published (apart from the enjoyment of it) which leads to fewer writers and a dying art form. It’s a bl…

I don't know about you, but I don't have interest in listening to AI generated music, or exclusively AI generated music. I want to go listen to a real live person perform. Same for all the other performing arts for that matter. I think we are really far away from robots controlled by AI performing a live Broadway musical for example. Heck we are far away from robots singing with the human emotion of a talented singer…

> I don't have interest in listening to AI generated music

The point is, you won’t know

Re: The workers already replaced by artificial intelligence

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Post by RikNieu »

toss1 wrote: post #8
ilaksh wrote: post #5

Call center workers are going to be hit very hard by AI. Especially if the company can convert a lot of requests to text chat. GPT-4 and even GPT-3.5 can handle almost anything routine related to servicing many types of accounts, especially now with the new function calling. Also Whisper and especially Eleven Labs can be very good at realistic speech/understanding. Although maybe a bit slow still if waiting for GPT-4…

Yes. I already use GPT-4 to replace support for a 3D CAD system I use, since it is usually takes a significant time & effort to get through to tech support, and this often provides very good answers (up to 2021). I think the best solution would be for them to train and implement a version of GPT-4 or similarly capable LLM on all of their documentation and support logs, then keep the live users to handle the issues wh…

I'm working an a product doing just that. MVP should be ready by end June

Re: The workers already replaced by artificial intelligence

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Post by SirMaster »

pipeline_peak wrote: post #15
SirMaster wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know about you, but I don't have interest in listening to AI generated music, or exclusively AI generated music. I want to go listen to a real live person perform. Same for all the other performing arts for that matter. I think we are really far away from robots controlled by AI performing a live Broadway musical for example. Heck we are far away from robots singing with the human emotion of a talented singer…

> I don't have interest in listening to AI generated music The point is, you won’t know

How would I not know?

I go to venues to listen to live music so I see the human performer performing.

I vastly prefer live performances to recordings.

Re: The workers already replaced by artificial intelligence

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Post by SirMaster »

soItGoesAgain wrote: post #14
SirMaster wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know about you, but I don't have interest in listening to AI generated music, or exclusively AI generated music. I want to go listen to a real live person perform. Same for all the other performing arts for that matter. I think we are really far away from robots controlled by AI performing a live Broadway musical for example. Heck we are far away from robots singing with the human emotion of a talented singer…

I think the big problem is what this is going to do to human creativity. Even if Human Artists still perform the Music, the AI can quickly and easily write music lyrics and create artwork from the suggestions you give it, and its already quite decent. So what are the people that enjoyed doing that themselves going to do, when Bing can do in minutes what they would have spent a week or two doing. Are humans just going…

I never understood this point of view.

Computers are way better than humans at lots of things, but that doesn't stop humans from spending lots of time on many of those things they enjoy even though a computer can do it better.

Like playing chess just for one example.

I do creative stuff because I enjoy doing it. I couldn't care less that a computer is better than me at it. Lots of people are better than me at it and have always been. Just as that doesn't stop my own enjoyment of doing it myself, neither would a computer being better than me stop my own enjoyment of it.

Re: The workers already replaced by artificial intelligence

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Post by toss1 »

RikNieu wrote: post #16
toss1 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. I already use GPT-4 to replace support for a 3D CAD system I use, since it is usually takes a significant time & effort to get through to tech support, and this often provides very good answers (up to 2021). I think the best solution would be for them to train and implement a version of GPT-4 or similarly capable LLM on all of their documentation and support logs, then keep the live users to handle the issues wh…

I'm working an a product doing just that. MVP should be ready by end June

Excellent!! For what products? Let me know how it goes (email in profile)
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