Miraheze to shut down

Post by nerpderp82 » Fri, Jun 16, 2023, 10:27 PM UTC

tallies wrote: post #16

BugsJustFindMe wrote: post #3

> ...long term sustainability problems, financial situation... Weird, because https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Finance says they have more money right now than they had at the start of the year and twice as much as they had the same time last year. > Owen and Alexander are fully committed to seeing the sustained growth of Miraheze > Compared to where we were before 2019, Miraheze is in a much better financial position,…

My impression from reading their Discord server yesterday is this: - Volunteers from Miraheze planned to create a paid wiki hosting service to supplement Miraheze called WikiForge - Several of those volunteers left Miraheze to start a free wiki host called WikiTide - The remaining volunteers were burnt out already and decided to call it quits - There are some talks of handing off Miraheze to another group of voluntee…

Post by iamacyborg » Fri, Jun 16, 2023, 10:32 PM UTC

duskwuff wrote: post #24

bursted wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hate how in search results Fandom is always above the better wiki about the same topic, that are independent or on better wiki farms like Miraheze. Fandom's SEO is brutal. They've slowly crippled the website and fucked over the regular users, but that doesn't affect them does it? Pinned at the top of Google there are always more clueless losers cascading in, they can't lose.

Worse yet: Fandom has a policy of not deleting inactive wikis, even if the community has deliberately abandoned them to move elsewhere, and will treat any attempt to advertise that another wiki has been created as vandalism and will block users (even wiki admins!) who attempt to do so. This means that, if a community does decide to move their wiki off of Fandom, they have an uphill battle to "beat" their old wiki in…

Post by joecool1029 » Fri, Jun 16, 2023, 10:46 PM UTC

golph wrote: post #19

duskwuff wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's some further context at https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Community_noticeboard#Stateme... -- specifically: > To clarify a bit on the reason behind this choice, the technical team behind Miraheze is currently 3 people (5 if you include two unprocessed resignations). Two of those three people (myself include) are currently burned out on the project and wish to step away. There's also some discussion of possibly h…

Also seems to tie together with the last bullets on these minutes: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Board/Policies/20230607-Minut...

Post by [deleted] » Fri, Jun 16, 2023, 10:48 PM UTC

bursted wrote: post #21

antisthenes wrote: post #11

Have all the fan wikis now consolidated under the horrible ad-ridden Fandom brand wikis now?

I hate how in search results Fandom is always above the better wiki about the same topic, that are independent or on better wiki farms like Miraheze. Fandom's SEO is brutal. They've slowly crippled the website and fucked over the regular users, but that doesn't affect them does it? Pinned at the top of Google there are always more clueless losers cascading in, they can't lose.

Post by LordShredda » Fri, Jun 16, 2023, 11:15 PM UTC

joecool1029 wrote: post #35

golph wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also seems to tie together with the last bullets on these minutes: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Board/Policies/20230607-Minut...

I had figured it was not exactly technical burnout in running Mediawiki installs but regulatory burnout in following Euro GDPR/cookie banner/bullshit-of-the-now requirements. Some of them are easy but the rest phase in once you reach a certain scale of users (which it sounds like they probably have).