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Miraheze to shut down

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Re: Miraheze to shut down

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Have all the fan wikis now consolidated under the horrible ad-ridden Fandom brand wikis now?

I hate how in search results Fandom is always above the better wiki about the same topic, that are independent or on better wiki farms like Miraheze. Fandom's SEO is brutal. They've slowly crippled the website and fucked over the regular users, but that doesn't affect them does it? Pinned at the top of Google there are always more clueless losers cascading in, they can't lose.

Re: Miraheze to shut down

#22
Was doing some reverse engineering recently and wanted a quick wiki to put stuff on in case others wanted to join in and contribute findings about the same product. Looked around and Miraheze seemed to be the only real option for free wiki hosting (I tried another one first, don't remember what it was called, but it was bad).

Experience was pretty good adding the pages but then I went back 6 months later to try and consult my wiki. It had been deleted per an inactivity policy. Fair enough... they did warn me -- my own fault for not checking the email account I'd signed up with.

Anyway, I'm sad to see them go because it was a great service and I don't know of any replacement.

Re: Miraheze to shut down

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This is the first time I'm hearing about this platform. Should I have been aware of it before?

Doesn't look like anything special, just free mediawiki hosting, powered by donations

That's pretty special, though. A free web service without ads or other BS. Please let me know if you find a good replacement for Miraheze.

Re: Miraheze to shut down

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post #21

Have all the fan wikis now consolidated under the horrible ad-ridden Fandom brand wikis now?

I hate how in search results Fandom is always above the better wiki about the same topic, that are independent or on better wiki farms like Miraheze. Fandom's SEO is brutal. They've slowly crippled the website and fucked over the regular users, but that doesn't affect them does it? Pinned at the top of Google there are always more clueless losers cascading in, they can't lose.

Worse yet: Fandom has a policy of not deleting inactive wikis, even if the community has deliberately abandoned them to move elsewhere, and will treat any attempt to advertise that another wiki has been created as vandalism and will block users (even wiki admins!) who attempt to do so.

This means that, if a community does decide to move their wiki off of Fandom, they have an uphill battle to "beat" their old wiki in search results. In many cases, Google will treat the new wiki as duplicate content and suppress it in search results unless pages are substantially rewritten.

Re: Miraheze to shut down

#25

Was doing some reverse engineering recently and wanted a quick wiki to put stuff on in case others wanted to join in and contribute findings about the same product. Looked around and Miraheze seemed to be the only real option for free wiki hosting (I tried another one first, don't remember what it was called, but it was bad). Experience was pretty good adding the pages but then I went back 6 months later to try and c…

There have been semi-regular backups of all Miraheze wikis for a long time, if you lost your content, I think, with luck, you could find it archived:

https://archive.org/search?query=miraheze

Re: Miraheze to shut down

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post #25

Was doing some reverse engineering recently and wanted a quick wiki to put stuff on in case others wanted to join in and contribute findings about the same product. Looked around and Miraheze seemed to be the only real option for free wiki hosting (I tried another one first, don't remember what it was called, but it was bad). Experience was pretty good adding the pages but then I went back 6 months later to try and c…

There have been semi-regular backups of all Miraheze wikis for a long time, if you lost your content, I think, with luck, you could find it archived: https://archive.org/search?query=miraheze

Yeah, NotAracham from Miraheze was really helpful and pointed me to this page: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:NotAracham/Wiki_Recovery... but I went through it and it doesn't seem like my wiki was captured on archive.org unfortunately. The .tar backups on archive.org only go up to 2021.

Re: Miraheze to shut down

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This is a bummer. Miraheze is/was a wiki farm that provided a free Mediawiki-based wiki to pretty much anyone who was able to articulate a reason and fill out a request to be given one. This was invaluable in an age where the term "wiki" has become so debased that "a bunch of Markdown files in a GitHub repo" is, against all good taste and reason, considered a wiki. Miraheze was supported by donations, which is almost…

Thanks for explaining. This announcement joins a long list of shutdown announcements where I find out a thing exists by its shutdown announcement, which neglects to explain why I should care about it.

Re: Miraheze to shut down

#29

> ...long term sustainability problems, financial situation... Weird, because https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Finance says they have more money right now than they had at the start of the year and twice as much as they had the same time last year. > Owen and Alexander are fully committed to seeing the sustained growth of Miraheze > Compared to where we were before 2019, Miraheze is in a much better financial position,…

Certainly it is hard to make it gel on the money side.

From their frontpage:

> If 550 of Miraheze's 300,000+ users gave only £12 (16.35 USD) once a year, Miraheze would exceed its budget requirements.

So not for want of £6,600 / year, presumably?

Labour's of love like this can just burn you out. Building the right sustaining community is hard, but it also seems like they're too big to just fizzle out like this? A shame.

Re: Miraheze to shut down

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> ...long term sustainability problems, financial situation... Weird, because https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Finance says they have more money right now than they had at the start of the year and twice as much as they had the same time last year. > Owen and Alexander are fully committed to seeing the sustained growth of Miraheze > Compared to where we were before 2019, Miraheze is in a much better financial position,…

My impression from reading their Discord server yesterday is this: - Volunteers from Miraheze planned to create a paid wiki hosting service to supplement Miraheze called WikiForge - Several of those volunteers left Miraheze to start a free wiki host called WikiTide - The remaining volunteers were burnt out already and decided to call it quits - There are some talks of handing off Miraheze to another group of voluntee…

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