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Miraheze to shut down

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Re: Miraheze to shut down

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post #4

That's sad. Some time ago there was some huge fallout/fight visible on their Discord which I did not understand (it was all referencing some internal Wiki, mailing lists etc.). That seem to be the "recent events" on first position in the announcement.

They mention resignations and burnout but no further details: https://www.avid.wiki/wiki/Forum:IMPORTANT:_AVID_is_moving_t...

Re: Miraheze to shut down

#14
post #9

Oh goddamnit, I run a Wiki for a non profit off of Miraheze. Any alternatives that might be recommended?

There might be a Docker image you could use with Digital Ocean.

MediaWiki is also in any cPanel via Softaculous. https://www.inmotionhosting.com/support/edu/cpanel/install-m...

Re: Miraheze to shut down

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> ...long term sustainability problems, financial situation... Weird, because https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Finance says they have more money right now than they had at the start of the year and twice as much as they had the same time last year. > Owen and Alexander are fully committed to seeing the sustained growth of Miraheze > Compared to where we were before 2019, Miraheze is in a much better financial position,…

There's some further context at https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Community_noticeboard#Stateme... -- specifically:

> To clarify a bit on the reason behind this choice, the technical team behind Miraheze is currently 3 people (5 if you include two unprocessed resignations). Two of those three people (myself include) are currently burned out on the project and wish to step away.

There's also some discussion of possibly handing over the project.

Re: Miraheze to shut down

#16

> ...long term sustainability problems, financial situation... Weird, because https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Finance says they have more money right now than they had at the start of the year and twice as much as they had the same time last year. > Owen and Alexander are fully committed to seeing the sustained growth of Miraheze > Compared to where we were before 2019, Miraheze is in a much better financial position,…

My impression from reading their Discord server yesterday is this:

- Volunteers from Miraheze planned to create a paid wiki hosting service to supplement Miraheze called WikiForge

- Several of those volunteers left Miraheze to start a free wiki host called WikiTide

- The remaining volunteers were burnt out already and decided to call it quits

- There are some talks of handing off Miraheze to another group of volunteers

FWIW I had a horrible experience using Miraheze last year:

- September: I created my wiki

- November: Miraheze had an error with a drive and over 25% of their wikis were lost. It took them weeks to admit the extent of this error and that they had no plans to use a professional recovery service

- Early December: I recreated my wiki and rewrote it (250+ articles)

- Late December: Miraheze recovered the back-ups they thought they had lost and said they would merge the new and old versions of recreated wikis. Somehow, due to 'someone unplugging a hard drive', they lost all of the content I'd written since November.

I've since learned my lesson about making local back ups, but come on. It was clear there had been tons of technical and communication problems for a long time.

Re: Miraheze to shut down

#17
Sad news. I started a wiki on Miraheze years ago, that became a fledgling community. It became inactive after a few years but I really appreciated the no nonsense, ad-free, vanilla MediaWiki hosting. They provided an important service for non-profits like mine.

Re: Miraheze to shut down

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Have all the fan wikis now consolidated under the horrible ad-ridden Fandom brand wikis now?

There's an excellent alternative front-end for wikis hosted there called BreezeWiki.[0] There's a mirror available at the very convenient antifandom.com which allows you to easily view a better version of any Fandom wiki page you've landed on.

[0] https://docs.breezewiki.com/Links.html#%28part._.Mirrors%29

Re: Miraheze to shut down

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> ...long term sustainability problems, financial situation... Weird, because https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Finance says they have more money right now than they had at the start of the year and twice as much as they had the same time last year. > Owen and Alexander are fully committed to seeing the sustained growth of Miraheze > Compared to where we were before 2019, Miraheze is in a much better financial position,…

There's some further context at https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Community_noticeboard#Stateme... -- specifically: > To clarify a bit on the reason behind this choice, the technical team behind Miraheze is currently 3 people (5 if you include two unprocessed resignations). Two of those three people (myself include) are currently burned out on the project and wish to step away. There's also some discussion of possibly h…

Also seems to tie together with the last bullets on these minutes: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Board/Policies/20230607-Minut...

Re: Miraheze to shut down

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Have all the fan wikis now consolidated under the horrible ad-ridden Fandom brand wikis now?

Not all. There are still some independent holdouts like https://yugipedia.com/ and some decent wiki hosts like https://wiki.gg/

Gamepedia being folded into Fandom is still a massive shame though. From gold to septic waste...

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