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Re: RIF developer counters Reddit CEO’s claims

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> Shu also tells me that RIF was paying a “sizable revenue share” to Reddit beginning in 2012, which was during Yishan Wong’s tenure as CEO. Shu says he says initiated the talks with Reddit to create the agreement, which allowed for the licensed use of Reddit’s trademarks. (At the time, the app was called “reddit is fun.”) Shu says Reddit terminated the agreement in 2016 — which was the year after Huffman took over a…

Yeah that part is really wild - there were making money already off a 3rd party app, then decided to NOT take their money in 2016, then not enforce any trademarks (assuming that was what the deal was for) for what, 7 years?! How is that not gross incompetence? Minority shareholder lawsuit territory?

It's really clear that spez wants terminate any 3rd party clients whatsoever, I assume at this point any talk of app devs actually working with them is also a lie, as is the moderator tools and accessibility tools getting free API access.

Finally, the initial email the RIF received is so egregious - IMMEDIATE COMPLIANCE REQUIRED, when they hadn't even changed their actual terms yet.

Who would invest in a Reddit IPO now?! If they had done _nothing_ up to this point, I probably would have bought some, not that I am anyone of note, but I assume any serious fund would steer clear too at this point.

Re: RIF developer counters Reddit CEO’s claims

#12
post #4

Barring all of the arguments for or against why reddit is doing what it is doing, why does spez keep lying? Like he must realize that emails don't disappear and phone calls can be recorded?

I think he's attempting Jobs' reality distortion field, but he missed the part where you're not supposed to be raving buffoon and tell lies that everyone recognizes as lies.

Re: RIF developer counters Reddit CEO’s claims

#14
post #7

> Shu also tells me that RIF was paying a “sizable revenue share” to Reddit beginning in 2012, which was during Yishan Wong’s tenure as CEO. Shu says he says initiated the talks with Reddit to create the agreement, which allowed for the licensed use of Reddit’s trademarks. (At the time, the app was called “reddit is fun.”) Shu says Reddit terminated the agreement in 2016 — which was the year after Huffman took over a…

Yeah that part is really wild - there were making money already off a 3rd party app, then decided to NOT take their money in 2016, then not enforce any trademarks (assuming that was what the deal was for) for what, 7 years?! How is that not gross incompetence? Minority shareholder lawsuit territory? It's really clear that spez wants terminate any 3rd party clients whatsoever, I assume at this point any talk of app de…

> then not enforce any trademarks (assuming that was what the deal was for)

I don't think that's true - "Reddit is Fun" rebranded to "rif is fun for reddit".

Re: RIF developer counters Reddit CEO’s claims

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Yeah that part is really wild - there were making money already off a 3rd party app, then decided to NOT take their money in 2016, then not enforce any trademarks (assuming that was what the deal was for) for what, 7 years?! How is that not gross incompetence? Minority shareholder lawsuit territory? It's really clear that spez wants terminate any 3rd party clients whatsoever, I assume at this point any talk of app de…

> then not enforce any trademarks (assuming that was what the deal was for) I don't think that's true - "Reddit is Fun" rebranded to "rif is fun for reddit".

Doesn't that still use the trademark reddit?

Re: RIF developer counters Reddit CEO’s claims

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> then not enforce any trademarks (assuming that was what the deal was for) I don't think that's true - "Reddit is Fun" rebranded to "rif is fun for reddit".

Doesn't that still use the trademark reddit?

The standard is that 3rd party apps must be in the format: "X for reddit". So, Reddit Sync became Sync for reddit, and Reddit News became Relay for reddit.

Re: RIF developer counters Reddit CEO’s claims

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn't that still use the trademark reddit?

The standard is that 3rd party apps must be in the format: "X for reddit". So, Reddit Sync became Sync for reddit, and Reddit News became Relay for reddit.

Ah I see, that makes sense I guess

Re: RIF developer counters Reddit CEO’s claims

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post #8
post #4

Barring all of the arguments for or against why reddit is doing what it is doing, why does spez keep lying? Like he must realize that emails don't disappear and phone calls can be recorded?

Right? He seems like a child. Of all people you would think the Reddit CEO would know that once seeming is on the internet it never disappears.

I think he knows but assumes that people will forget about it over time. It's worked for him in the past.

Re: RIF developer counters Reddit CEO’s claims

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post #12
post #4

Barring all of the arguments for or against why reddit is doing what it is doing, why does spez keep lying? Like he must realize that emails don't disappear and phone calls can be recorded?

I think he's attempting Jobs' reality distortion field, but he missed the part where you're not supposed to be raving buffoon and tell lies that everyone recognizes as lies.

The reality distortion field worked for Jobs because he was weirdly charismatic while being a colossal asshole. spez just isn't charismatic.
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