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Surges of cosmic radiation from space directly linked to earthquakes
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Re: Surges of cosmic radiation from space directly linked to earthquakes
#92Our understanding of the relationship between sun and earth has barely begun to sprout. Popular discourse tends to be dominated by Newtonian ideas, as if earth was simply a rock in empty space orbiting a massive fireball called the sun. We landed on the surface of the moon by using such approximations. But they fail to explain many observations that modern technology has opened our eyes to. For example, the coronal h…
> Why does the temperature of the sun’s atmosphere increase as you get further away from the surface? We still don’t know exactly.
Kind of reminds me of the inner tip of the blue cone in the Bunsen burner which is supposed to be the hottest point of combustion rather than at the bottom of the flame, and the top of the flame is supposedly the coolest?
Re: Surges of cosmic radiation from space directly linked to earthquakes
#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
The idea is loopy because the energy that reaches the earth from even a massive solar flare is orders of magnitude less than the energy released by a major earthquake, and that is orders of magnitudes less than the energies that drive the dynamo in the Earth's core. It's possible for a falling leaf to hit a mountain in just such a way that it dislodges a boulder balanced on top, but you need to tell a pretty compelli…
In fact i hypothesise they've inverted cause and effect. Tectonic movements absolutely have the energy to move the earths magnetic field and the magnetic field blocks cosmic radiation. Something that moves the magnetic field would allow more cosmic radiation There's only a handful of detectors outside of earths magnetic field. Orbiting satellites are even within its field of influence. Comparing this data to the meas…
What you wrote, is a good place to start future observations. There is a lot of unexplored dynamics to investigate, in the earth. Roiling hot fluid and gaseous systems in flux, which are magnetic - due to iron (and other minerals), is a fluid dynamics dream subject.
But, how to finance? In today's research systems driven by funding to support specific answers, instead of expanding knowledge just to see what we learn.
Ps. An attempt at modeling the inner Earth's systems and flows might be more useful for earthquake prediction.
Re: Surges of cosmic radiation from space directly linked to earthquakes
#94The key claim in the paper ( https://arxiv.org/pdf/2204.12310.pdf ) is that there are detectable changes in cosmic ray activity around 15 days before major seismic events. One posited mechanism is that stuff happens deep in the earth that affects the magnetic field first, and then kicks off some big earthquake. But they don't rule out loopier ideas (like sunspot activity driving changes in the Earth's dynamo that the…
Precursor signals for earthquakes is a field that has about as much credibility as astrology, from the few conversations I've had with professional geologists and planetary scientists. I had a minor and short-lived role in designing a sensor network that might be useful for these kinds of low-signal, high-noise precursors, and I got nothing but strange looks from actual geologists.
Re: Surges of cosmic radiation from space directly linked to earthquakes
#95> The main idea here is the observation that eddy currents in the liquid core of our planet are responsible for generating the Earth's magnetic field. This field deflects the paths of charged particles of primary cosmic radiation. Thus, if large earthquakes were associated with disturbances in the flows of matter that drive the Earth's dynamo, these disturbances would alter the magnetic field, which in turn would aff…
There are orbiting and ground-based magnetic observatories whose data goes at least as far as the cosmic ray observatories. If their hypothesis is that the magnetic field is what connects cosmic ray observations to the origin of seismic activity, they could check those records.
Re: Surges of cosmic radiation from space directly linked to earthquakes
#96This was discussed quite a bit after 2004 asian tsunami, which was triggered by an earthquake near Antarctica and there was also some massive gamma ray burst (or something) occurring about the same time.
I wouldn’t be surprised. It’s a connected universe. No thing is an island.
Re: Surges of cosmic radiation from space directly linked to earthquakes
#97Could nuclear reactions inside the earth emit radiation that is picked up by these detectors? I think probably not. But if so, imagine molten nuclear fuel coming together and creating extra energy that soon after produces earthquakes.
Re: Surges of cosmic radiation from space directly linked to earthquakes
#98The key claim in the paper ( https://arxiv.org/pdf/2204.12310.pdf ) is that there are detectable changes in cosmic ray activity around 15 days before major seismic events. One posited mechanism is that stuff happens deep in the earth that affects the magnetic field first, and then kicks off some big earthquake. But they don't rule out loopier ideas (like sunspot activity driving changes in the Earth's dynamo that the…
Or there's a common trigger event, like, say, a large gravitational wave or a passing cloud of weakly interacting matter(dark matter?) which triggers both increased cosmic ray emissions along with earthquakes. Not that I believe any of this, but it seems we're just pulling stuff out of our asses so I figured I'd give it a shot.
we should definitely just reverse the shield polarity and be done by the third act. hopefully the robot can learn a lesson about humanity before the end credits.
Re: Surges of cosmic radiation from space directly linked to earthquakes
#99This was discussed quite a bit after 2004 asian tsunami, which was triggered by an earthquake near Antarctica and there was also some massive gamma ray burst (or something) occurring about the same time. I wouldn’t be surprised. It’s a connected universe. No thing is an island.
Well, islands are islands, aren't they?
Re: Surges of cosmic radiation from space directly linked to earthquakes
#100Interesting bit: I've been watching this one conspiratorial YouTube channel from time to time, and there it is claimed that the link between sun, radioactivity, and earthquakes, is old news. Here is a video exactly about this, from more than 7 years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEyflcAlqZc