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Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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Post by kulahan »

moi2388 wrote: post #796
taude wrote: post #789

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you deserve to have no ads? Reddit isn't a community service. I do think that for moderators, they could have some special app to help them do their jobs easier, but for regular users, meh, the ads are easy enough to scroll past, like in other social media outfits. I also don't agree that the mobile app is shitty.

Because ads are worse than cancer. The fact companies are allowed to jam them into your eyeballs without consent is absolutely ludicrous.

Bro, you're walking into their property and getting pissed at their decorations. They need to make money, and Americans at least have shown that they vastly prefer to pay for things and services by looking at ads, rather than by paying with money.

If you don't want ads, pay for the privilege and get reddit premium. If you don't want to pay and you can't handle ads and you refuse to use an adblocker but MUST keep visiting for some reason, then stop whining - you've directly refused every solution.

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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Post by pferde »

goykasi wrote: post #823
matheusmoreira wrote: post #809

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why do you deserve to have no ads? Because my attention belongs to me. Exclusively. It's not yours. It's not reddit's. It's not Google's. It doesn't belong to anyone other than I, certainly not a corporation. It's not a currency that can be used to pay for services. They do not have the right to sell it off to the highest bidder. I deserve not to be advertised to for the same reasons women deserve not to be raped:…

Wow wtf. You have some serious issues. First, I agree that your attention belongs to you, and you are 100% in your right to go elsewhere. Reddit is not forcing you to view their ads. But second, you are unhinged if you think this is a reasonable comment: > I deserve not to be advertised to for the same reasons women deserve not to be raped Wow

What's unhinged about it? It's the same principle, the only difference is severity of the violation.

Of course being raped is miles ahead of the weak form of mind control attempt that is advertising, but it's the same damn scale.

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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Post by bmmayer1 »

iaw wrote: post #786

I think Huffman is falling into a trap that Kanye and Mark Zuckerberg have fallen into: trying to prove he's special. Kanye rose to fame as a young genius rapper/producer/designer and was acclaimed repeatedly. Zuckerberg rose to fame as a brilliant business twenty-something (according to the world around). They spent half their life being praised and told they're important, brilliant, special, prescient, etc. So they…

I've met Steve, and I have to disagree. In my view he is not ego-driven and is quite thoughtful and considerate.

Is it possible that he's right? That the damage done to reddit by these boycotts or the reaction to them isn't as bad as the media hype would have you believe?

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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Post by iaw »

aprdm wrote: post #828
idkyall wrote: post #801

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Look, I'm not the biggest Mark Zuckerberg fan or anything, but I don't think the thus-far questionable business decision to pivot to the metaverse is quite the same level as having an very public mental breakdown and making anti-semitic remarks

Yeah exactly. I have issues with what social media does to people and some of what Mark has done.. but he is nowhere near my level of despise for Musk, Kanye or others in that circle.

I just want to remind you that of the three people listed only Mark took actions that exacerbated a genocide (Rohingya in Myanmar).

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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Post by aprdm »

brabel wrote: post #372
Panzer04 wrote: post #359

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Reddit is a forum. It should not be hard to make money selling ads on the most popular forum on the internet. Hosting costs should be jack shit, developing costs should be pretty low, etc. Reddit must be funking up in a pretty fundamental way to not be making money.

Easy to say from the outside, isn't it? You think they just never thought of that...

They didn’t, in case you aren’t in the industry of VC, they all want to go big or to go bust. There’s no culture of reasonably sustainable business model

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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Post by TheRealDunkirk »

iaw wrote: post #786

I think Huffman is falling into a trap that Kanye and Mark Zuckerberg have fallen into: trying to prove he's special. Kanye rose to fame as a young genius rapper/producer/designer and was acclaimed repeatedly. Zuckerberg rose to fame as a brilliant business twenty-something (according to the world around). They spent half their life being praised and told they're important, brilliant, special, prescient, etc. So they…

It's important to remember that Digg imploded for the same reason that Reddit is having trouble: a big investment, followed by demands to recoup it. Reddit was ready to take up the slack. The thing that will save Reddit is that there doesn't seem to be another service ready to absorb the outflow.

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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Post by matheusmoreira »

taude wrote: post #826
matheusmoreira wrote: post #809

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why do you deserve to have no ads? Because my attention belongs to me. Exclusively. It's not yours. It's not reddit's. It's not Google's. It doesn't belong to anyone other than I, certainly not a corporation. It's not a currency that can be used to pay for services. They do not have the right to sell it off to the highest bidder. I deserve not to be advertised to for the same reasons women deserve not to be raped:…

The moment you log into someone else website, your attention no longer belongs to you, FYI. Not sure who told you it should work differently.

> The moment you log into someone else website, your attention no longer belongs to you

It absolutely does. What nonsense. My cognitive functions don't belong to some corporation just because I visited their website. They are inalienable.

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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Post by iaw »

TheRealDunkirk wrote: post #846
iaw wrote: post #786

I think Huffman is falling into a trap that Kanye and Mark Zuckerberg have fallen into: trying to prove he's special. Kanye rose to fame as a young genius rapper/producer/designer and was acclaimed repeatedly. Zuckerberg rose to fame as a brilliant business twenty-something (according to the world around). They spent half their life being praised and told they're important, brilliant, special, prescient, etc. So they…

It's important to remember that Digg imploded for the same reason that Reddit is having trouble: a big investment, followed by demands to recoup it. Reddit was ready to take up the slack. The thing that will save Reddit is that there doesn't seem to be another service ready to absorb the outflow.

If someone can make Lemmy more resilient than Lemmy seems to be the answer.

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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Post by dangwhy »

iaw wrote: post #786

I think Huffman is falling into a trap that Kanye and Mark Zuckerberg have fallen into: trying to prove he's special. Kanye rose to fame as a young genius rapper/producer/designer and was acclaimed repeatedly. Zuckerberg rose to fame as a brilliant business twenty-something (according to the world around). They spent half their life being praised and told they're important, brilliant, special, prescient, etc. So they…

> Zuckerberg tanked the stock price with VR/Metaverse and then juked it by firing a chunk of the company.

meta stock today is at $280.

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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Post by matheusmoreira »

kulahan wrote: post #841
moi2388 wrote: post #796

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because ads are worse than cancer. The fact companies are allowed to jam them into your eyeballs without consent is absolutely ludicrous.

Bro, you're walking into their property and getting pissed at their decorations. They need to make money, and Americans at least have shown that they vastly prefer to pay for things and services by looking at ads, rather than by paying with money. If you don't want ads, pay for the privilege and get reddit premium. If you don't want to pay and you can't handle ads and you refuse to use an adblocker but MUST keep visi…

We're walking into nothing. Our user agents are making a request to their HTTP server. It's not our faults if it replies with a free web page. All they have to do is return 402 Payment Required.

But they want that mass media appeal that comes with giving things out for free, don't they? Guess they'll have to deal with it. If they send ads along with their free pages, we'll delete them. I used to rip out the ads from the magazines too. Same thing.

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