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Reddit CEO Says Mods Too Powerful, Plans to Weaken After Blackout

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Re: Reddit CEO Says Mods Too Powerful, Plans to Weaken After Blackout

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Agreed. Just my opinion: most mods I've encountered seem like smarmy, smug, and sanctimonious petty tyrants who need to touch grass.

Paradoxically the only places I’ve seen this “touch grass” sentiment used are full of people who… need to touch grass.

I've got about 2 acres of it if you wanna let them know. We can have a BBQ. Everybody's welcome.

Re: Reddit CEO Says Mods Too Powerful, Plans to Weaken After Blackout

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There's a silent majority - "lurkers" - that the mods have completely ignored over the course of their tantrum. I've commented more in the past few days than i have in the past few months, because it's obvious the mods have completely lost perspective of the average user experience.

Lurkers are pure consumers, free-riders. They produce nothing. They are valuable only to Reddit for their potential to be monetized. People like to say that users who post content care about lurkers because they want to be seen/heard. No. People who post content care about commenters (and up/downvoters at the bare minimum) who interact with them in meaningful ways, not lurkers. Lurkers are the cosmic neutrinos of soc…

> They are valuable only to Reddit for their potential to be monetized.

yes, and fund service running. Looks like important part of the ecosystem.

Re: Reddit CEO Says Mods Too Powerful, Plans to Weaken After Blackout

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Ha. There were some weird posts from new users in subreddits I frequent. 'we need to rise up against the mods the blackout is an outrage!' It was met with unanimous wtf is wrong with you, go outside. I get the feeling spez is creating new accounts and posting as them again.

> It was met with unanimous wtf is wrong with you, go outside.

“Go outside” is an ironic comment, given that the subreddit blackout doesn’t appear to be all that popular among casual Reddit users. It’s popular among the chronically online people who use Reddit so much that they’re intimately involved in every detail of the site, but 98-99% of users don’t use 3rd party clients.

> I get the feeling spez is creating new accounts and posting as them again.

It’s getting weird that Redditors are turning into conspiracy theorists, believing that anyone who disagrees with the popular narrative must be a shill, a plant, or the CEO himself speaking to them.

No, the CEO of Reddit isn’t spending all day coming to your niche subreddit, creating new accounts, and sockpuppeting opinions to the handful of people there.

Re: Reddit CEO Says Mods Too Powerful, Plans to Weaken After Blackout

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Ha. There were some weird posts from new users in subreddits I frequent. 'we need to rise up against the mods the blackout is an outrage!' It was met with unanimous wtf is wrong with you, go outside. I get the feeling spez is creating new accounts and posting as them again.

Well, I, for one, don't fucking care about third party apps (which make money mind you) Reddit is/was my first source of real human information for a lot of stuff (since google is unusable now). And this blackout was really a pain in the ass

Can you give me an example of what you search so I can see what unusable you're talking about?

Re: Reddit CEO Says Mods Too Powerful, Plans to Weaken After Blackout

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I do care about the third party apps because they assist moderators in doing their job (which has been done for free as a service to Reddit). And more personally, they provide accessibility support lacking both in the Reddit website and app. I am not a mod, and will literally no longer be able to use Reddit as well as I have had over the last years. The third-party developers have provided Reddit with tremendous valu…

> (which has been done for free as a service to Reddit). Most of them are doing it because they get off on having a tiny bit of power. I couldn't care less about the API or the will of capricious mods - I hope Reddit will hand the subs over to other people

> Most of them are doing it because they get off on having a tiny bit of power.

[citation needed]

Re: Reddit CEO Says Mods Too Powerful, Plans to Weaken After Blackout

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Every day that passes I’m getting more convinced that the best move to improve the likelihood of a successful IPO (which IMHO this whole API clusterfuck is all about) is to fire spez and install a sane CEO. How can it be that he is still in charge and hasn’t been fired years ago?

Reddit has never had great leadership, much like Twitter. There was an idea that you needed a visionary founder to lead a social media company,which is why @jack and u/spez got brought back, but neither have been good leaders of their companies or great stewards of the community.

Instagram and YouTube seem to be examples of social media sites led by non-founders, though those are also subsidiaries.

Re: Reddit CEO Says Mods Too Powerful, Plans to Weaken After Blackout

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> delete your comments Given reddit is apparently restoring deleted comments, that's going to be a useless gesture.[1] I agree with the sentiment though; if people en masse migrated away from Reddit the way they did with Digg, that would be the only really impactful long-term gesture. Edit: Regarding the sockpuppet thing, I mean, we've literally seen that happen a number of times. When you see an account created in 2…

I've been exploring the fediverse options like kbin and lemmy and I just don't see it. Maybe someone can explain. If one lemmy instance has a really popular community, say "Memes" how can that scale? There could be millions of posts and terabytes of data. Then if multiple lemmy instances have their own "Memes" communities, that's balkanized and a user would have to subscribe to each instances "Memes" community? Or ar…

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Re: Reddit CEO Says Mods Too Powerful, Plans to Weaken After Blackout

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The difference between Musk/Twitter and spez/Reddit is that the value of Reddit lies in its army of unpaid moderators, and Twitter's value lies in its brand recognition. When Musk took over and pissed off everyone, the only protest the users can do is to leave the platform. Some did but not enough to hurt Twitter. That's because the management (ie modding) is done by Twitter staff already. With a strong brand, Twitte…

except you don't need to be born a chosen one to become a mod. its not rocket science, and plenty of people want the power have you every thought to yourself, wow, /r/pics is so much better since /u/DM_ME_BOOGERS joined the mod team, I really feel like there was a pre-2019 /r/pics and a post-2019 /r/pics People don't even notice that mod teams could have completely rotated out this year and they didn't feel a thing e…

Pretty much, people only notice when mod team decides to make significant changes to how subreddit works (banning certain types of posts etc.), not the power-hungry individual at hand

Re: Reddit CEO Says Mods Too Powerful, Plans to Weaken After Blackout

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>If those moderators leave, Then they will find new ones. As long as Reddit has usecases, as long as the powertrip is worth the lack of ownership and poor tooling, there will be mods willing to moderate subs and feeling powerful and getting drunk off of it. 'Historically', this has happened in every social medium with moderation so far. There's no anarchy here. Most Redditors don't care for the mods in particular. If…

I don't totally disagree, but mods without good tooling are dead in the water, and reddit has failed for years to build good mod tooling.

Reddit has seriously improved their mod tools in recent years. I really don't understand these complaints.

I'm not a sock puppet, I just don't see the validity in saying over and over that the mod tools are bad, when they are clearly not and work for quite a lot of mods.

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