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The Beehaw “about us” page is amazing. They elevate their favored ideology to “just being a good person”. Such self-blindness is quite entertaining. … but also kinda creepy.
This decision makes perfect sense. Beehaw requires applying to sign up with a sort of cover letter. If their community is more restrictive, they should only federate with similar-minded nodes.
I'm wondering, if the current Reddit civil war between spez and the mods would be best handled by a similar arrangement. Create two federated, in a loose definition of the word, Reddits...one run by Reddit and mods spez approves, and one run by the same way its run now. Users could choose which version to use. Posts and comments come from the same source, but mod actions are unique to each version.
Not that Reddit would ever do that.
Was this unexpected? Having instance-level control over federation is part of the point of federation.
So if you have instance A which is federated with instance B, and if instance A sees instance C as hostile, it obviously defederates from instance C, but it would become problematic if instance A would also defederate from instance B simply because instance B is federated with instance C.
Honestly, isn't that fine ? It means that the community has control and not a singular company. Just important to never let any single instance get as big as a company.
The issue is this instance seems to be the largest, with many established subreddit on it. Now people will have to split between multiple clones on other instances. At least wait for people to settle in first!
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Imagine your mom emails you and asks why she can't access her favourite subreddit anymore and you have to explain she now has to make 2 different accounts to access different subreddits. I mean 'instances'. I just picture my own trying to wrap her head around "why". It sounds like a minor hurdle to our demographic but most people are super lazy and bad at juggling online authentications. I would never recommend Masto…
You don't need to make 2 different accounts to access different instances unless you want to post.
"You don't need an account on social media unless you want to interact with people on the internet"
As if being a federated network wasn't enough of a hurdle for new users, now we have instances blocking each other already. Lemmy has a great chance achieving what mastodon couldn't, because its the community that matters, not specific users, but with instance blocking each other, any hope of creating a community to rival reddit is going to be thrown out the window.
Reddit also bans subreddits, the difference here is that you have more than one option if you don't like the communities that your instance is banning.
I don't really know how this all works, but can't I (a hypothetical human) just create a user account on each disconnected sub-graph? Why is this significant?
Imagine your mom emails you and asks why she can't access her favourite subreddit anymore and you have to explain she now has to make 2 different accounts to access different subreddits. I mean 'instances'. I just picture my own trying to wrap her head around "why". It sounds like a minor hurdle to our demographic but most people are super lazy and bad at juggling online authentications. I would never recommend Masto…
This whole defederation thing is going to guarantee a win for centralized services.
Was this unexpected? Having instance-level control over federation is part of the point of federation.
Stuff gets murky when admins ban other instances based on the instances that those other instances federate with. So if you have instance A which is federated with instance B, and if instance A sees instance C as hostile, it obviously defederates from instance C, but it would become problematic if instance A would also defederate from instance B simply because instance B is federated with instance C.
Whatever happened to self-moderating? I have higher standards for my speech and on-line conduct than any TOS. Many others do too. Plus, I know how to use software that allows "kill-files" and won't use any that doesn't give me the ability to "moderate" others if I want by just filtering it.
Vetting? It's a global network. If you want vetting spin up a Linux on Linode or something and invite only,ssh only, and create a forum.