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Alert HN: Mozilla puts advertising into Firefox AGAIN

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Re: Alert HN: Mozilla puts advertising into Firefox AGAIN

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Post by no_time »

kuroguro wrote: post #20
no_time wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It does indeed look superior. But getting the 2nd most important software on my PC from a group of randos with not even full names and God knows what level of opsec is just too scary even for me. I've been toying with the idea of setting up a build enviroment for LibreWolf myself but that would still require auditing the patches and their changes as they come in every day.

> from a group of randos with not even full names Somehow I'd trust a group of randos more than most corporations

For most things, me too. I have no qualms about running a keygen for example. It doesn't get updated, doesn't reach out to the internet, and has a tiny set of functionality.

But a browser is none of these. If one of the devs gets their machine hacked, a trojanized build can reach you in mere seconds if you are unlucky enough to start your browser shortly after the build pipeline gets infected.

Re: Alert HN: Mozilla puts advertising into Firefox AGAIN

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Post by archerx »

solarkraft wrote: post #19

I've been thinking about starting an "un-Mozillaed" distribution of Firefox for a long time. Maybe the IceWeasel brand is now free?

Ironically Firefox was the "un-Mozillaed" version of the Mozilla browser back in the day and Firefox was released as the lean, unbloated, very fast version of the Mozilla browser and now we have come full circle.

I have stopped using Firefox after using it daily for years because I was just so sick of their updates making things progressively worse.

Re: Alert HN: Mozilla puts advertising into Firefox AGAIN

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Post by no_time »

solarkraft wrote: post #18
no_time wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It does indeed look superior. But getting the 2nd most important software on my PC from a group of randos with not even full names and God knows what level of opsec is just too scary even for me. I've been toying with the idea of setting up a build enviroment for LibreWolf myself but that would still require auditing the patches and their changes as they come in every day.

Do you mean they keep patching stuff? What's the problem with tracking their patches a bit more slowly?

Eh. It might be fine until it isn't. One build system breakage and you are looking at an afternoon of fiddling if you are like me. (not much experience in C++ and it's tooling)

Re: Alert HN: Mozilla puts advertising into Firefox AGAIN

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Post by doubled112 »

archerx wrote: post #23
solarkraft wrote: post #19

I've been thinking about starting an "un-Mozillaed" distribution of Firefox for a long time. Maybe the IceWeasel brand is now free?

Ironically Firefox was the "un-Mozillaed" version of the Mozilla browser back in the day and Firefox was released as the lean, unbloated, very fast version of the Mozilla browser and now we have come full circle. I have stopped using Firefox after using it daily for years because I was just so sick of their updates making things progressively worse.

Is the SeaMonkey project “active enough” for daily use? Could I go somewhat full circle?

They update the engine from Firefox periodically, but the browser is a rather important part of security.

Re: Alert HN: Mozilla puts advertising into Firefox AGAIN

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Post by ShamelessC »

pawelduda wrote: post #13

I missed tree tab extension in Firefox the most, now I'm using Brave and they just added vertical tab bar, which does the job for me. Strongly recommend it. Also they don't revamp the top bar every update with cool new color themes.

You "missed" it? Tree Style Tab in Firefox still exists and works better than ever for me.
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