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Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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Smelled this one coming miles away. Next, they'll hand over fan-built communities to the entities that own the IPs they're dedicated to. Eg. r/starwars to Disney, r/startrek to Viacom/Paramount, etc. Then, old.reddit.com will stop working spontaneously, just like how they toyed with killing mobile browser access to force users to download the app, which they probably will eventually. That's going to be the final push…

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Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

#542
What makes me really sad was there was a way around this. Even if we accept the CEO’s lie that running the API is costly , Reddits monthly revenue per user is $0.12 at best. They were demanding $2.50 per user per month from third party apps. A simpler solution - “users who want to use third party apps need to pay Reddit $6/month directly by subscribing to Reddit premium”. That would have raised way more revenue! And people would have understood as well. They can pay for the premium experience of using a third party client or they can use the free official client. Win Win!

Except, this isn’t about the cost of running the API for private users (the aforementioned lie). Reddit the company feels aggrieved that they aren’t being paid by OpenAI and others when they’re training models on some of the most high quality, up to date, moderated, on topic training data generated by Reddit users.

Which is fair enough, that’s worth waaay more than $6/month. But surely that could be resolved through rate limits and a licensing contract signed by the LLM companies.

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

#543
So, is it time for Yahoo! 2.0 yet? Years ago I read a blog post talking about the next big ideas (Joel Spolsky?) and the one that stood out was a new search engine. At the time I thought it was a crazy idea; who|what would|could replace Google?! Now, I'm not so sure the idea was crazy at all.

The Reddit discussions over the past few days have got me thinking about how a lot of folks interact with it, and not just as a forum. Yahoo! was great in it's time because it was human moderated. Maybe we can get back to that by building a search engine out of Reddit style discussions, kinda like micro "search engines".

Or maybe I just described Stack Exchange. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

#544

This is so sad honestly. Like wtf is going on, no apology, no good will, doubling down on the complete moral suicide of Reddit. To push an app no-one ever liked, you know that, but whatever. No-one likes “new” Reddit either, you know that, but whatever. Who’s even gonna use the site after this? Social media zombie sheeple is all that's going to be left. Congrats on your dumb little site, from the front-page of the In…

I like the new Reddit UI for mobile web compared to old.reddit.

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

#546
post #109

Smelled this one coming miles away. Next, they'll hand over fan-built communities to the entities that own the IPs they're dedicated to. Eg. r/starwars to Disney, r/startrek to Viacom/Paramount, etc. Then, old.reddit.com will stop working spontaneously, just like how they toyed with killing mobile browser access to force users to download the app, which they probably will eventually. That's going to be the final push…

They are done, 100%, this is the turning point and it's all downhill from here. They depend fundamentally on volunteer labor and every decision they've made since announcing the API change has alienated that labor. The morale of every mod I know is in the tank. The solution for this was incredibly simple. Reddit you want to charge for the API? Go right ahead, we all want you to make money. But when the volunteer labo…

> Instead Reddit decided to escalate. Declare war on the people who make their service possible. It was the dumbest possible move they could make for their business. The decision makers behind this must operate in one hell of an echo chamber.

There is absolutely no way they are not aware of this.

No, they've made a conscious decision that completely alienating and driving away the parts of the communities which care about all of this stuff is a price they're willing to pay.

It seems pretty clear that they believe the people who will leave are not crucial enough (in function and number) to make the overall communities collapse, and that the result they want to achieve is worth the losses.

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

#547
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> Next, they'll hand over fan-built communities to the entities that own the IPs they're dedicated to. Eg. r/starwars to Disney, r/startrek to Viacom/Paramount, etc. This isn't an accurate extrapolation. In fact it's extrapolating in the opposite direction. The moderators are taking a moral stand against an API policy. But the the actual users of the subreddits never consented to this moral stand. By removing these m…

I mod a small sub that I started many years ago, the sub users expressed overwhelming support for the 2 day private protest. So I am interested in what numbers you are using to support your statement that users did not consent.

"Overwhelming" as a proportion of all sub members? Or just as a majority of those who actually voted?

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

#549

What makes me really sad was there was a way around this. Even if we accept the CEO’s lie that running the API is costly , Reddits monthly revenue per user is $0.12 at best. They were demanding $2.50 per user per month from third party apps. A simpler solution - “users who want to use third party apps need to pay Reddit $6/month directly by subscribing to Reddit premium”. That would have raised way more revenue! And…

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Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

#550

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Any good alternative? I like hacker news for now that it still got some comments worth reading and interesting articles

Lemmy: https://join-lemmy.org/

Thanks, I'd read about Lemmy in various threads on here and finally decided to check it out.

Unfortunately, it seems to be down right now.

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