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Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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Post by luroc »

andrewstuart2 wrote: post #169
cryptoegorophy wrote: post #152

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Any good alternative? I like hacker news for now that it still got some comments worth reading and interesting articles

Lemmy is still significantly lower user count but honestly I prefer the community at the moment. Everything feels small and jovial. At least for the 12 comments I've posted thus far. I'm running my own, which makes it easy to federate out to pretty much anything and worry less about overload as I'm not really pushing for users. Thus far, it's definitely felt like a very viable replacement for reddit for the communiti…

Is there something like a 'Lemmy frontpage' yet?

As in a view/site that aggregates top posts across Lemmy instances?

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Post by mehdix »

icoder wrote: post #406
redmerchant2 wrote: post #162

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They don’t care about the old guard of mostly geeks and techies. With Covid and moments of Twitter/tumblr exodus, Reddit has picked up a ton of users that just want generic social media. It’s basically just a global slightly more news text-centric TikTok feed. Serving up slop that’s just tasty enough to keep you hooked.

My home page turned into this at some point in the past, after which I unsubscribed from a bunch of dopamine based subs and subscribed to more substantial subs of my interest. That really helped, but over time the rot set in again as a few subs grew in size and turned into a meaningless dopamine fest (probably fuelled by karma hungry bots / farms). Based on this experience I won't be surprised at all if your predicti…

This was exactly my experience too. Their app is also optimized toward that end, ad-riddled, laggy, and privacy-invasive (the green online dot, bombarded my pi-hole with requests). Their web is the same, just pushing for the app and slow. I have not been on reddit on the past few days, and perhaps this is my chance to put my time into better use, including more HN again.

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Post by Sparkyte »

zarzavat wrote: post #388
Sparkyte wrote: post #214

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Reddit is trying to flip loss to profit. They have a wealth of data for AI models and AI is going to be big. They are trying to cash in on it. What they should have done was make a free model for general API use like most companies to develop against. And after that tier the model accordingly. Data is expensive, even though it is getting cheaper per byte we are producing more of it per volume.

I don’t get the AI angle. The data already exists in dumps. How does restricting access to the API stop that? Sure, you don’t get access to new data but I doubt anybody cares about that given that there’s 15 years of existing data already. Especially if they kill all the interesting subs and turn Reddit into cat picture central.

True, but old data is not what companies want since it is readily available and probably already in models. Reddit produces more data than any other social media website in the text and picture format. I think Tiktok is relatively close but with videos.

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Post by jeltz »

goykasi wrote: post #379
atraac wrote: post #350

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> They are trying to keep the main, core userbase happy. But there's a very simple way to do that... sit down with people, figure out a solution that doesn't involve a single dev spending 20m USD a year just to maintain an app that people like. There's multitudes of ways this whole thing could've been solved, they clearly don't wont to solve it. Paid API is NOT going to make reddit profitable, especially at this pric…

100% agreement with you here. You have one of the first logical arguments for any push back. > figure out a solution that doesn't involve a single dev spending 20m USD a year just to maintain an app that people like Absolutely, I was hoping that would happen when I saw the first Apollo thread(s) a few weeks ago. But Christian took this very personally, and he decided to take his toys and go home. reddit is not at all…

Why shouldn't he have taken it personally? He got 30 days notice from Reddit that they will change the pricing in a way likely to kill his business? With more advance notice he could have investigated ways to adapt his business or tried to lobby politely for a different pricing model. With this short notice he basically was forced to shut down.

I do not fault Christian at all for taking it personally, Reddit handled it very poorly.

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Post by TeMPOraL »

apgwoz wrote: post #394
posguy wrote: post #387

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Considering he was a major force driving the rewrite of Reddit from Lisp (the version that HN is based on currently) to Python, adding features like Markdown support (a language he helped create in 2002), Aaron defined major parts of the site that have persisted across multiple rewrites of Reddit's codebase.

Hacker News is written in arc. The first reddit was written in Common Lisp. clisp, specifically, I believe. Aaron convinced them to do it in his web.py and it was rewritten in a weekend (or so the story went). Later, it was written in Pylons and open sourced. No idea these days.

Ouch. Mixed character, that's for sure, but I guess no hero is perfect.

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Post by grose »

spazx wrote: post #109

Smelled this one coming miles away. Next, they'll hand over fan-built communities to the entities that own the IPs they're dedicated to. Eg. r/starwars to Disney, r/startrek to Viacom/Paramount, etc. Then, old.reddit.com will stop working spontaneously, just like how they toyed with killing mobile browser access to force users to download the app, which they probably will eventually. That's going to be the final push…

Did Reddit forget why they were popular in the first place? Remember the Digg redesign? Seems like every Reddit update has been user-hostile in a way that was much worse than the Digg stuff.

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Post by Sparkyte »

dyno12345 wrote: post #402
Sparkyte wrote: post #214

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Reddit is trying to flip loss to profit. They have a wealth of data for AI models and AI is going to be big. They are trying to cash in on it. What they should have done was make a free model for general API use like most companies to develop against. And after that tier the model accordingly. Data is expensive, even though it is getting cheaper per byte we are producing more of it per volume.

reddit has been around for nearly 20 years, the AI thing just seems like a hype train they're trying to jump on to.

Hypetrain like crypto. But AI has potential unlike crypto. Not part of the hypetrain as you really need to get it behave properly. The biggest loss in AI right now is the data needed to for an AI model to work. Not only does it need source data but it needs to store its model, those models can be MASSIVE. Which means expensive, to make it accessible you need to store it in memory... to make it better it needs to be faster... faster larger memory is $$$.

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Post by xigoi »

sprokolopolis wrote: post #238
egeozcan wrote: post #205

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Are these servers like subreddits, or more like email providers? Is there a "see all, interact with all, no restrictions" lemmy server? Help! :)

Each server (AKA "Instance") is kind of like an email provider, or like a bunch of individual Reddit websites. On Lemmy a "Community" is their version of a subreddit. Each server/instance hosts its own communities, but if you have an account on one server, you can still subscribe, read and post on off-server communities. Each server is a piece of the federation. Some Instances do not federate with all other instances…

> some servers that were completely unmoderated, filled with terrible content and were defederated by most other instances. Most decent people don't want to see that stuff on their feed.

Why not solve that by blocking them yourself, instead of forcing everyone else to block them?

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