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Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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Post by mjfl »

photonerd wrote: post #244
olalonde wrote: post #217

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Facebook and Twitter are not bot ridden ghost towns... but anyways, I'll make the opposite prediction: Reddit is going to turn out just fine and this episode will quickly become a memory from the past.

Twitter absolutely is. If it’s not bots, article spam, or ads, it’s the crazy MAGA-crowd jerking themselves off over their fake-outrage of the moment. It’s an absolute ghost town in terms of engaging, original, content. Their user numbers are obviously buoyed by absolute junk accounts and it’s been obviously so since Musk fired most of the company. FB is a boomer & genX meme-pocalypse that’s absolutely slathered with…

you have blinders on. Tucker Carlsens videos have tens of millions of views on Twitter. Heads of states and scientists from around the world still communicate via twitter. Even tumblr-weirdo types still post there. You couldn't be more wrong.

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Post by jimbob45 »

paulmd wrote: post #263
KingOfCoders wrote: post #16

If you don't pay for it, it's not your community. Again and again people think they get something for free, which they don't. If it's free you're a volunteer for the company, if you pay you're a customer.

The problem is that people don't even agree on what "it" is. Low friction of cross-board collaboration increases the spam problem. There will be low quality instances in a federated world. Other people really really just want to post about woodworking or whatever and the federation thing is not interesting at all. Nobody wants a feed without content in it anymore than staring at an empty email account, so you kind of…

4chan has a pretty tidy solution by having 10x as many janitors as mods. The janitors recommend posts/threads for deletion but the mods hold the ultimate power. Even better with a functional reporting system.

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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Post by Panzer04 »

faeyanpiraat wrote: post #323
kitd wrote: post #247

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The threshold for free API usage for modding tools is being increased from 60 to 100 queries per minute https://mods.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/16693988535309 There are a very small minority that exceed that even now apparently. Seems not unreasonable to me.

Why is this downvoted? According to the linked article, even the bots which exceed the usage were manually whitelisted to stay free.

Reddit destroyed any trust they had, so I'd guess it doesn't matter that much what they say in response at this point. It's too little, too late to say you'll keep API free for some people at this point.

I think there's still a remote opportunity they claw trust back, but it's getting smaller the longer they have their CEO out there telling people to get stuffed.

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Post by OnlyLys »

unclekev wrote: post #108
aeorgnoieang wrote: post #78

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I'm kinda curious why none of the third party app developers considered selling Reddit requests as in-app purchases – just charge the rate Reddit charges.

Some of them are trying to figure something out. https://www.reddit.com/r/RelayForReddit/comments/147152b/upd... > There's no possibility to continue the free version of Relay; a monthly subscription price of $3 (or less) might be achievable. And of that $3 the Developer says in that thread: > Yes there should be a good amount in there for myself. If 3rd party apps are so beloved, then $3/month to support a developer…

Paying a monthly subscription to only have access to half of Reddit (NSFW will not be available through third-party apps) sounds like a bad deal to me.

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Post by TheCaptain4815 »

Funny seeing everyone who cheered the mass censorship these past few years realize they’re just cattle to the Reddit owners.

Had free speech stayed a pillar of Reddit (and the internet in general), a Reddit replacement would have been much easier to come to fruition.

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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Post by goykasi »

lamontcg wrote: post #188
Takennickname wrote: post #153

This whole scuffle is reddit leadership fighting against the 1% Mods that moderate 99% of the subreddits. Everyone else is just a pawn. The mods are just jealous that reddit is gonna be making a lot of money and want a cut. Even though this looks like reddit vs the community, this is actually reddit vs the Mod 1%.

Nah, the winners will be the paid shills that will take over more subreddits of the idealists. Some of them probably participated in the 3 days or whatever it was of blackout so they look good to the rest of the users, but they're ultimately getting paid by PR corporations and they'll be ready with alts that will take over subreddits that go permanently private.

How do we know that the current mods aren't paid shills also? This blackout would make a lot more sense if that were the case. They have to protect their bottom line, and the changes that reddit is enacting threatens their ability to operate.

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Post by willis936 »

goykasi wrote: post #208
willis936 wrote: post #172

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I can think of roughly 100,000 people that would be better suited to run reddit than spez.

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If it were my decision the pool of serious contenders would not be 100,000 and spez would not be anywhere near among them.

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Post by Roark66 »

Seriously, people should've moved their communities to self-hosting already (while they still had control over them). Once the original moderators are booted new ones can simply remove any announcements like this.

It is unfortunate we're witnessing the fall of reddit, but at the end of the day it's a private owned site. If they want to destroy it for the few extra bucks it might bring them it's their right to do so.

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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Post by jimmydorry »

faeyanpiraat wrote: post #323
kitd wrote: post #247

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The threshold for free API usage for modding tools is being increased from 60 to 100 queries per minute https://mods.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/16693988535309 There are a very small minority that exceed that even now apparently. Seems not unreasonable to me.

Why is this downvoted? According to the linked article, even the bots which exceed the usage were manually whitelisted to stay free.

They are probably downvoted because the majority of developers of said moderator tools have pulled the pin and are shutting them down... seeing as the writing is already on the wall. Why spend any more effort maintaing the tools created when Reddit has said they will kill them off as soon as they have finished their own version? And anyone following what Reddit has been doing in the leadup to this stand-off, would be rightfully suspicious of whether Reddit even intends to uphold their pinky promise here and not just revoke API access as soon as this quietens down.

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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Post by input_sh »

hn_thrwn wrote: post #264
sofixa wrote: post #256

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> and leaks it as a torrent either. Yet Aaron did just that.

He didn't, that never happened. He was accused of intending to leak it, not of actually leaking it.

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