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Contractually?
It's far worse option than directly taking money for the API access.
But the point is really that there are plenty of options, and instead of attempting any of those Cs just went with api euthanasia.
> Interviewer: I don’t know if I agree with the characterization that Apollo is a fully direct competitor of Reddit. > Huffman: Okay, hold on, timeout. You go to the App Store, you type in Reddit, you get two options, right? There’s Apollo. You go to one, it’s my business, and you look at our ads, use our products. That’s 95 percent of our iOS users. The rest go to Apollo, which uses our logo, or something like it, t…
To save apollo? An ios-only app that a tiny number of people use? talk about entitlement
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To save apollo? An ios-only app that a tiny number of people use? talk about entitlement
If it’s such a tiny number of people, why is spez so desperate to shut it down?
almost every company does not allow direct competitors in their platform. I m not even sure about the apps they are "cooperating" with. Down the road, one of them may end up reselling reddit content and come into conflict again.
The fact that reddit made poor decisions in the past should not stop them from making the right decisions now. Unfortunately though they still dont seem to have a good plan
> Interviewer: I don’t know if I agree with the characterization that Apollo is a fully direct competitor of Reddit. > Huffman: Okay, hold on, timeout. You go to the App Store, you type in Reddit, you get two options, right? There’s Apollo. You go to one, it’s my business, and you look at our ads, use our products. That’s 95 percent of our iOS users. The rest go to Apollo, which uses our logo, or something like it, t…
He has a point, no? Sure, there's a middle ground where API access is priced so both Reddit and Apollo make money. But Apollo can offer a better experience because they don't have to sell ads, and if they get a large enough market share they can just start their own Reddit.. the codebase is not an effective moat.
There's already an API and an ecosystem of third party apps. I'm amazed at the failure to embrace the opportunity to monetize this in a reasonable timescale, in a world where customers are already accustomed to monthly subscriptions.
> Interviewer: I don’t know if I agree with the characterization that Apollo is a fully direct competitor of Reddit. > Huffman: Okay, hold on, timeout. You go to the App Store, you type in Reddit, you get two options, right? There’s Apollo. You go to one, it’s my business, and you look at our ads, use our products. That’s 95 percent of our iOS users. The rest go to Apollo, which uses our logo, or something like it, t…
To save apollo? An ios-only app that a tiny number of people use? talk about entitlement
> We don’t have to meet our deadline. We told folks hey, we need to come up with a plan, or we’re going to start billing you on July 1st. I don't understand why he keeps doing these interviews, he's just terrible at responding to completely predictable, reasonable questions.
I can't believe he's the CEO of a company as big as Reddit. After being pressed for why the 3P apps have 1 month to figure out a plan, he is visibly angry and keeps saying "we've been supporting them for 10 years!" which only makes the company look incompetent for not warning sooner if July 1st is some hard deadline. Then saying "those 3p devs [Apollo] don't want to work with us" with no hint of irony. Dude, obviousl…
Reddit got half a billion people addicted to candy and now CEO Steve Huffman refuses to sell it because he thinks they're eating it wrong. There's already an API and an ecosystem of third party apps. I'm amazed at the failure to embrace the opportunity to monetize this in a reasonable timescale, in a world where customers are already accustomed to monthly subscriptions.
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He has a point, no? Sure, there's a middle ground where API access is priced so both Reddit and Apollo make money. But Apollo can offer a better experience because they don't have to sell ads, and if they get a large enough market share they can just start their own Reddit.. the codebase is not an effective moat.
> But Apollo can offer a better experience because they don't have to sell ads... Reddit could require serving their ads as a requirement for API access. Right now there is no way for Apollo to serve reddit ads even if they wanted to.
Reddit could choose to include the ads they sell within the API calls and say that anyone who uses the API has to display the reddit ads as well.
Maybe they could even share the ad revenue with the third party apps when someone clicks on the ads in the third party app.
They could then charge for the API calls that don't have the ads in them - e.g. the LLM that are consuming the data.