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Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by satvikpendem »

> If a moderator team unanimously decides to stop moderating, we will invite new, active moderators to keep these spaces open and accessible to users. If there is no consensus, but at least one mod wants to keep the community going, we will respect their decisions and remove those who no longer want to moderate from the mod team.

Moderators exist to moderate a community, not to shut it down wholesale. Reddit's response is the only reasonable one they could have made. If the majority of your userbase likes sub X and some mods (fewer than 10 for such a sub) want to shut it down, then of course Reddit would open it back up.

People here on HN and Reddit decrying this as the end of Reddit likely don't remember all of the controversies of Reddit over the past 17 years since it's been active. Hell, most of the current userbase came in after the most recent blackout in 2015 due to Ellen Pao firing Victoria. This has all happened before, with no effect to Reddit, indeed, much the opposite, seeing their user growth numbers.

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by irrational »

I used shreddit to delete all of my comments a few days ago. I was shocked to discover today that they are all back. I'm deleting all of them again, but clearly Reddit is doing things on the back end. I've also read of people having their unsubs reversed.

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by IntelMiner »

i_like_apis wrote: post #25
gareth_untether wrote: post #7

Another day and another nail in another awesome online community that has terrible leadership. Where will the communities move to? What new areas of the Internet will be created?

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The "minority of whining idiots" are the ones who run reddit with their free labor

The "minority of whining idiots" are the ones who developed 3rd party moderation tools because Reddit refused to

The "minority of whining idiots" are the ones who run subreddits without pay

The "minority of whining idiots" are the ones saying that disabled users can't access the site anymore because of these changes

Reddit's entire existence is built on user submission of content and curation of that content as unpaid labor by users and mods

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by concinds »

The dishonesty continues.

> if they are no longer interested in moderating that community

They're still interested. They're just protesting your policies.

> [if] at least one mod [...] wants to keep the community going, we will respect their decisions and remove those who no longer want to moderate from the mod team.

This one takes the cake. They're dangling a carrot: hey, any low-ranked mod interested in taking over the subreddit for yourself? And they're still insulting everyone's intelligence, as if a single mod reopening against strong subreddit consensus was something Reddit Inc. needed to begrudgingly "respect", rather than something they're eagerly encouraging.

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by moskie »

We (the internet community) made such a terrible mistake with social media. We formed connections and communities and friendships on sites like Facebook and Twitter and Reddit, but those companies need to make money, so those connections are only allowed to exist as long as they are part of a profitable system. How awful it is to reduce human connection to that. To think that I am only allowed to maintain certain social connections as long as they continue to produce monetary value for an intermediary. An awful, awful mistake.

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by as1992 »

k2xl wrote: post #30

For someone kind of out of the loop, can someone explain what they think reddit should do instead of charging for their API access? After all Reddit is a business right? What alternatives do users want reddit to do instead?

The issue isn't actually reddit charging for API access, its how much they're charging. $0.24c per 1000 api requests which for high volume apps isn't feasible.

Heres a post by the developer of Apollo explaining his experience in detail https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/144f6xm/apollo_w...

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by juujian »

Wow, they really did their research to come up with the worst possible responsive. First, declaring in response that they don't care and won't budge, then when that inevitably resulted in an extension of the blackout, threatening the mods, their mouse valuable resource. They must have consulted Musk to come up with this.

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by javajosh »

One gets the feeling that the Reddit leadership is "feeling themselves", and have lost sight of the fact that people can just walk away and suffer no ill consequences. In fact, it might even be in their psychological benefit to do so! Take a break, and maybe come back in a few months, a year, and see what distributed forums people have started. Sounds like a great thing for the internet, tbh.

(I finally deleted my Twitter account early this year, and apart from massimo I don't miss it - and turns out he's mirrored on mastodon.)

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by Levitz »

secondcoming wrote: post #19
donutshop wrote: post #3

What's the end game here for reddit? There's no way this would end well.

I honestly don't think this will affect reddit that much. I find the whole thing quite annoying, to be honest, and I imagine I'm not alone. Unhappy mods are free to leave, there's no need to pull the rug from under everyone else who doesn't care. I don't need yet another thing to log in to. I'll only stop using reddit if they get rid of old.reddit.com.

>Unhappy mods are free to leave, there's no need to pull the rug from under everyone else who doesn't care.

You are assuming that Reddit mods are mentally sound, unbiased volunteers who do it to improve the world.

That's simply not the case for a great deal of them. There is a LOT of agenda pushing, a LOT of powertripping and a LOT of mental illness at work. If that wasn't the case the blackout would have been completely site-wide without a time estimate.

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