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Archaeologists find 3000-year-old sword, exceptionally well preserved

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Re: Archaeologists find 3000-year-old sword, exceptionally well preserved

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Post by wnissen »

beanjuice wrote: post #19

Is there a website where you can view chronologically interesting archaelogical finds? Like a timeline of what has popped up from the ground made by human hands?

I highly, highly recommend A History of the World in 100 Objects (particularly the out of print 2011 hardback, which is not available from any non-Amazon sources I could find.) As you can guess from the title, it tells the story of human history through archaeological finds. They are all from the British Museum, so it wouldn't include something like the sword from the OP, but given that independence from the British is the most widely celebrated holiday in the world, it's nearly comprehensive.

https://www.amazon.com/History-World-100-Objects/dp/06700227...

Re: Archaeologists find 3000-year-old sword, exceptionally well preserved

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Post by klyrs »

coldpie wrote: post #42

It blows my mind that these godawful cookie banners is where we ended up. Web devs, you clowns need get your shit together. No, the law doesn't require you to do this. Go back to the drawing board and do better.

The web devs have got their shit together. If you delete the cookie banner through the DOM inspector, it comes back.

Re: Archaeologists find 3000-year-old sword, exceptionally well preserved

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Post by zulban »

Archelaos wrote: post #18

The article is somewhat sensationalistic. Finding an octagonal type bronze sword ("Achtkantschwert" in German) from that period is rare, but we have quite a couple of them. Since bronze does not rust, the conditions of such swords are often quite good (and typically far better than that of medieval iron swords, for instance). Here is a map of the distribution of octagonal-hilted swords in Europe: https://www.research…

>somewhat sensationalistic

What a cynical comment. The title doesn't even say rare, and there's only a few dozen found in "all of Europe", ever. What could possibly be seen as sensationalist here? Thanks for your excellent sources, however.

I know it's trendy to say sensationalist, and it's often true. Just seems like a lazy thing to write in this case.

Re: Archaeologists find 3000-year-old sword, exceptionally well preserved

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Post by moultano »

NelsonMinar wrote: post #54
coldpie wrote: post #42

It blows my mind that these godawful cookie banners is where we ended up. Web devs, you clowns need get your shit together. No, the law doesn't require you to do this. Go back to the drawing board and do better.

This kind of UI is malicious compliance, part of a campaign by European websites to slowly grind down support for GDPR by making a really shitty experience out of it.

All the official EU websites have them too.

Re: Archaeologists find 3000-year-old sword, exceptionally well preserved

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Post by cmrdporcupine »

usrusr wrote: post #48
beloch wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Such myths are likely based on classical Rome rather than bronze age discoveries. For several centuries after the Western empire fell apart, Europeans lacked the capability to build settlements or structures anywhere close to the size typical of classical Roman civilization. Populations were depressed by pestilence, social order had declined, and most Europeans were within a short distance from a former Roman settlem…

That trope is about something so forgotten that any discoveries would be entirely unexpected. But awareness of Rome was never lost, quite the opposite. Even bureaucratic connections survived, they just shifted back a gear from political to spiritual authority. Most nominal titles like count or duke assumed by european nobility derive their names from some role in Roman administration, they all considered themselves a…

Came here to say much the same thing. A great book that gets into the details of this is https://www.amazon.com/Inheritance-Rome-Illuminating-Dark-40...

TLDR; people considered themselves "Roman", or something adjacent to it, long after the western empire officially disintegrated, and of course in the east it didn't really die.

Even on the outskirts (e.g. Romano-British) people held onto Roman, Christian, and Latin culture at a very deep level. And even when the Anglo-Saxons invaded they were extremely aware of who and what the Roman ruins etc. were, even if they chose not to settle in them in many cases.

Re: Archaeologists find 3000-year-old sword, exceptionally well preserved

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Post by ryandrake »

kokanee wrote: post #47
coldpie wrote: post #42

It blows my mind that these godawful cookie banners is where we ended up. Web devs, you clowns need get your shit together. No, the law doesn't require you to do this. Go back to the drawing board and do better.

Agree with the sentiment, disagree with the assignment of blame. Blame legal, marketing, design, or PM. No web dev decided this was how they wanted to spend a day.

To be fair, the web developers are the ones actually typing in the code and deploying it. They must share at least partial blame.

This whole "Don't blame me! Boss told me to do it" attitude is rampant in software.

Re: Archaeologists find 3000-year-old sword, exceptionally well preserved

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Post by WalterBright »

beloch wrote: post #21
lordleft wrote: post #12

It's funny to think that the fantasy/speculative fiction trope of "precursor civilization that has advanced tech" was probably grounded in the historical memory of people happening upon ruins, weapons and artifacts of extraordinary craftsmanship.

Such myths are likely based on classical Rome rather than bronze age discoveries. For several centuries after the Western empire fell apart, Europeans lacked the capability to build settlements or structures anywhere close to the size typical of classical Roman civilization. Populations were depressed by pestilence, social order had declined, and most Europeans were within a short distance from a former Roman settlem…

There was also the Minoan civilization, wiped out by the eruption of Santorini. Probably inspired the Atlantis legend.

Re: Archaeologists find 3000-year-old sword, exceptionally well preserved

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Post by thot_experiment »

ryandrake wrote: post #66
kokanee wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agree with the sentiment, disagree with the assignment of blame. Blame legal, marketing, design, or PM. No web dev decided this was how they wanted to spend a day.

To be fair, the web developers are the ones actually typing in the code and deploying it. They must share at least partial blame. This whole "Don't blame me! Boss told me to do it" attitude is rampant in software.

Big agree with this sentiment, personal responsibility/dev mutiny/collective action could go a long way toward making the world less garbage.
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