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Re: /r/startrek/ migrates to lemmy

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Post by PaulHoule »

trostaft wrote: post #103
herculity275 wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While it's far from over, the Facebook-Twitter-Reddit consensus does seem a lot shakier right now. I'm excited to see what the more fractured/federated social space of tomorrow will look like but I also feel like we'll come to miss some of the more contentious features of the current megaplatforms (e.g. centralized moderation).

I agree, particularly because I think smaller communities are a solution to the moderation problems that have plagued traditional megaplatforms. That or developing better NLP tools that are able to better understand human nuance in a comment. The latter could be a dangerous tool...

The smaller you are the less it matters.

One thing that annoys me about Mastodon is that the medium amplifies angry toots, particularly about politics. I don't want to read anything where anybody active after 1945 is accused to be "a Nazi" or "a fascist" for instance.

Because there are so many toots to read I have no problems losing some toots so if the model rejects some stuff because it is about a topic that people frequently write angry toots about that's fine with me.

My smart RSS reader YOShInOn is already classifying 2000 articles on a good day, one of these days I have to update it so it can train more than one classification model. I'm pretty sure my model would work OK for angry toots if I can collect 5000 or so them which might be a lot to bear.

An advantage of content-based filtering trained by the individual (as opposed to a corporation) is that it will not be so controversial because the people being filtered won't know that it happened. Someone on mastodon pointed out that this doesn't give backpressure for people to improve their behavior

https://mastodon.social/@UP8/110526769345483257

but

https://mastodon.social/@UP8/110527273094994515

Re: /r/startrek/ migrates to lemmy

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Post by karmakurtisaani »

davidcollantes wrote: post #47
fsflover wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> isolated website Did you hear about federation?

I understand it is federated, apologies. What I meant was, to engage with the new StarTrek Lemmy you need to know their address. On Reddit everything is at https://reddit.com/ . It is frictionless.

Go check out join-lemmy.org, it's a lot more user friendly than you might think!

Re: /r/startrek/ migrates to lemmy

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Post by graypegg »

rakoo wrote: post #107
graypegg wrote: post #3

What are the current solutions for discoverability in Lemmy? Having a tombstone on Reddit pointing people towards a specific instance is good but it’s still hard to be the definitive community when the namespace isn’t as restricted any more. Maybe that’s better?

There's a third-party indexer here: https://lemmyverse.net/communities Much like any true decentralized system, there can be as many star trek communities as there are trekkies. But this is not a technical problem, it's a social problem: when wanting to discuss, they will naturally converge towards the same space(s). If there are multiple, that's not a problem, just like it's not a problem to have multiple linux dist…

Oh hey that’s EXACTLY what I was hoping for! A board of boards. Human consensus works pretty well for sorting a list like that. Thanks!

Re: /r/startrek/ migrates to lemmy

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Post by nerdix »

BitwiseFool wrote: post #62
bognition wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Something that Reddit admins and users constantly miss is: "its the mods that make a subreddit amazing". People openly talk about this as the reason that HackerNews continues to be such a vibrant community. Replacing the mods will change the community, full stop. Could be for the better , could be for the worse.

>"Something that Reddit admins and users constantly miss is: "its the mods that make a subreddit amazing"." Conversely, the mods can also be mercurial and act like little tyrants over the subreddit. /r/StarTrek in particular is known for stifling criticism around 'new trek' and spinoff subreddits like /r/DaystromInstitute were created by people tired of the mods' actions. It also raises an interesting question as to…

I think there should be some sort of election for mods. Voted on by the community. Maybe have a minimum level of activity in a sub required to cast a vote.

I also don't think mods should be able to turn /r subs private. The private subs should be on a different path like /p. If you turn a /r sub private then it converts to /p and the /r subname becomes available again.

I suspect that some reform around private subs will be instituted in the near-ish future since it is the primary tool used by mods in the boycott.

Re: /r/startrek/ migrates to lemmy

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Post by rcxdude »

incomingpain wrote: post #41

I got banned from there because I didn't like Discovery. You have a top secret ultra elite experimental ship with a spore drive... with what? Something something tardigrades? But then your crew is a criminal, cadet Tilly?, everyone is unstable/untrustworthy, and a rather high concentration of LGBT people? But you get banned for pointing this out.

Seems odd that you mention an 'unstable/untrustworthy crew' in the same breath as 'high concentration of LGBT people' as reasons you don't like it. I suspect that might be related to your ban, not the fact that you didn't like it in the first place.

Re: /r/startrek/ migrates to lemmy

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Post by joot82 »

stcroixx wrote: post #16

And for those of us with no interest in following the mods, can /r/Startrek be opened again? If the old mods moved platforms, there’s no need to keep this private.

It might get reopened at some point, probably under some arbitrary rule that demotes the current mods and choses a new team, but reddit corporate itself won't moderate any subs too soon because that would expose them to a whole new set of regulations and liability. They are currently just providing the technical platform and not being responsible for content.

Re: /r/startrek/ migrates to lemmy

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Post by BizarroLand »

unshavedyak wrote: post #63
davidcollantes wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t see this approach as a viable one, but time will tell. I never subscribed to the Startrek subreddit, but having it on an isolated website instead of been agglomerated on a solution like Reddit will have an engagement decrease, especially when people who subscribed to the sub still participates in other subreddits.

Yea, there's definitely advantages to everyone being on Facebook. Many of us are focusing on the disadvantages of a single platform ruling all communities, though. Software wise (Lemmy/Kbin/etc), it's definitely not for the faint of heart currently but that will improve in time. For me though the biggest thing is "One platform to rule them all" is not viable. It will have issues, users will suffer, and this isn't som…

I think we need a federated facebook replacement and a federated image server, but I don't know how to go about building this myself.

Re: /r/startrek/ migrates to lemmy

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Post by BizarroLand »

Zetice wrote: post #78
fullshark wrote: post #53

based on the reactions in r/gaming when they opened back up they either have to to do this or admit they are giving up and the entire protest was meaningless: https://old.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/149cq9f/reddit_were...

By definition the protest will always be meaningless, because ultimately the vast majority of users don't care. Reddit can weather this storm because most of the people who they make money off of are confused about what this is about and when it blows over will be otherwise ambivalent about all of it. This was never going to work. Mods should have used this moment to get paid (percentage of ad revenue generated by th…

The people who care will move on, the people who don't can play with the leftovers. It's fine.

People still use MySpace after all.

Over time, the newbies will start to realize that they're using a hollowsite and start looking for more substance, and they'll come find us wherever we happen to be.

Re: /r/startrek/ migrates to lemmy

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Post by incomingpain »

rcxdude wrote: post #116
incomingpain wrote: post #41

I got banned from there because I didn't like Discovery. You have a top secret ultra elite experimental ship with a spore drive... with what? Something something tardigrades? But then your crew is a criminal, cadet Tilly?, everyone is unstable/untrustworthy, and a rather high concentration of LGBT people? But you get banned for pointing this out.

Seems odd that you mention an 'unstable/untrustworthy crew' in the same breath as 'high concentration of LGBT people' as reasons you don't like it. I suspect that might be related to your ban, not the fact that you didn't like it in the first place.

>Seems odd that you mention an 'unstable/untrustworthy crew' in the same breath as 'high concentration of LGBT people' as reasons you don't like it. I suspect that might be related to your ban, not the fact that you didn't like it in the first place.

I also mentioned cadet and criminal, each of these attributes are separate entities.

You are the one associating untrustworthy with LGBT. Which in fact isn't the case.

I am referring to Voq / Ash Tyler who is untrustworthy because he's a klingon mole. I don't believe he is LGBT? OR Captain Lorca who was mirror universe and implicitly untrustworthy? Also not LGBT as far as I know.

As a trans person, I don't believe I would ever associate unstable or untrustworthy and LGBT. But alas here I am being downvoted for this.

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