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Re: /r/startrek/ migrates to lemmy

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Post by MisterBastahrd »

sergiotapia wrote: post #5

Big loss, I would google stuff like: "Why is there only one Negus in deep space 9?" and more often than not it was a Reddit thread someone submitted 8 years ago with in depth knowledge. This is huge, hopefully more communities migrate away from Reddit. That platform got way too big for it's britches. Just don't move to Discord, Discord is terrible. The major problem Reddit has and will always have is "power moderator…

Is it a loss?

I've already described an easy fix to retain every single bit of that knowledge elsewhere: make links to individual topics followable from the web and from search, even if the sub has gone private.

Easy. Fixes 100% of the issues regarding knowledge lost. Mods retain their power over sub visibility for new content but get their balls cut off when it comes to the freedom of knowledge.

Re: /r/startrek/ migrates to lemmy

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Post by nerdbert »

fsflover wrote: post #42
davidcollantes wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t see this approach as a viable one, but time will tell. I never subscribed to the Startrek subreddit, but having it on an isolated website instead of been agglomerated on a solution like Reddit will have an engagement decrease, especially when people who subscribed to the sub still participates in other subreddits.

> isolated website Did you hear about federation?

> Did you hear about federation?

I feel like we're not getting nearly as many /r/startrek jokes as we should be at this point.

Re: /r/startrek/ migrates to lemmy

#93

Post by Stephen304 »

q1w2 wrote: post #69
malermeister wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's distributed, but the login can be from any site. You don't need multiple accounts, you can subscribe to "subreddits" (not sure what they're called over there) on different servers from your instance, similar to how a gmail and a hotmail user can email each other or join the same mailing list.

Does this mean that if I go to startrek.website, I will see posts and comments from other "subs" I'm subscribed to?

Yes, you'll see posts both from startrek.website as well as other instances on the home page. You can subscribe to remote communities as long as you do it from startrek.website (and don't accidentally follow a link to another instance where your startrek.website login won't work), and all of your local and remote subscriptions will be combined in your subscribed feed on your home instance.

Re: /r/startrek/ migrates to lemmy

#94

Post by malermeister »

Stephen304 wrote: post #93
q1w2 wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does this mean that if I go to startrek.website, I will see posts and comments from other "subs" I'm subscribed to?

Yes, you'll see posts both from startrek.website as well as other instances on the home page. You can subscribe to remote communities as long as you do it from startrek.website (and don't accidentally follow a link to another instance where your startrek.website login won't work), and all of your local and remote subscriptions will be combined in your subscribed feed on your home instance.

> (and don't accidentally follow a link to another instance where your startrek.website login won't work)

I feel like there really needs to be a browser extension that does the appropriate redirects to make this problem go away. It's a really bad UX rn.

Re: /r/startrek/ migrates to lemmy

#95

Post by HelloMcFly »

incomingpain wrote: post #41

I got banned from there because I didn't like Discovery. You have a top secret ultra elite experimental ship with a spore drive... with what? Something something tardigrades? But then your crew is a criminal, cadet Tilly?, everyone is unstable/untrustworthy, and a rather high concentration of LGBT people? But you get banned for pointing this out.

> I got banned from there because I didn't like Discovery.

Was it for not liking Discovery, or being an a-hole about it? I didn't and don't like Discovery, I was pretty clear and precise in how I expressed that opinion. I saw many others shared it. I never got banned, and never stopped seeing people disparaging Discovery.

Basically on Discovery, people seemed not treat the ship as a workplace, and there was no emergency too critical to not interrupt it with an extended and heartfelt, emotionally cathartic interaction. But the level of vitriol people would bring to their feelings about that show was often very off-putting and quite unfamiliar.

Re: /r/startrek/ migrates to lemmy

#96

Post by oldstrangers »

If your entire market fit is on providing a platform for communities that are inherently platform agnostic, then you're probably wise to keep those communities as happy as possible. Reddit ultimately does nothing unique, it's a bulletin board link aggregator.

Re: /r/startrek/ migrates to lemmy

#97

Post by BizarreByte »

tapoxi wrote: post #84
BizarreByte wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seriously though, it's absurd that such a small group of incredibly privileged users (mods) get to speak for the majority and make decisions for them. Reddit should be removing these mods, adding new ones, and reopening subs. Mods shouldn't get to hold entire communities hostage when they throw a tantrum. Anyone can moderate a subreddit, these mods aren't special and they're completely replaceable. They should be rem…

Typically the users are voting in favor of this. Also mods aren't as replaceable as you think - who wants to work for Reddit for free while being treated as disposable?

I really wonder how many users are in favour. I keep seeing very critical/cynical comments about the whole thing and most users only casually browse to begin with.

It's hard to get a real idea how much support there is amongst the user base.

I standby what I said though, mods shouldn't have the power to take away entire communities.

Re: /r/startrek/ migrates to lemmy

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Post by joecot »

graypegg wrote: post #3

What are the current solutions for discoverability in Lemmy? Having a tombstone on Reddit pointing people towards a specific instance is good but it’s still hard to be the definitive community when the namespace isn’t as restricted any more. Maybe that’s better?

> Having a tombstone on Reddit pointing people towards a specific instance is good but it’s still hard to be the definitive community when the namespace isn’t as restricted any more. Maybe that’s better?

I don't think that's much different than reddit itself tbh. So many subreddits splinter into "Foo"/"TrueFoo"/"TrollFoo"/"Foojerk" etc as it is, as groups have fights and run off. Often the original "Foo" is dead, with no tombstone marker to the real active subreddit. Lemmy and kbin will involve a lot of the same, with just different instances with their own "Foo" instead of "xxFooXX".

Re: /r/startrek/ migrates to lemmy

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Post by slindsey »

Stephen304 wrote: post #57
davidcollantes wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I understand it is federated, apologies. What I meant was, to engage with the new StarTrek Lemmy you need to know their address. On Reddit everything is at https://reddit.com/ . It is frictionless.

I'm not sure if you're aware, but only the first remote user needs to know the address. After that the content gets federated to the feeds of other instances automatically, including the new/hot pages where popular upvoted posts from the star trek instance can show up on the front page of other instances, allowing new people to discover, join the "sublemmy", and comment often without realizing it's hosted on a differ…

Based on my mastodon experience, it's a little more nuanced than that. You are on a server (not the star trek one). Someone on your server needs to follow stuff on that star trek server for it to show up on your server. So if your community is mostly about fishing and no one likes star trek but you, you'll never see it unless you go looking for it.

Re: /r/startrek/ migrates to lemmy

#100

Post by nerdix »

Zetice wrote: post #74

No, the members of /r/startrek are vowing to not use Reddit anymore. /r/startrek will be considered abandoned and given to anyone who asks for it. Reddit will take it away from these mods and I don't blame them. Maybe nobody will use it, but some people probably will, people who don't give a shit about stupid Internet wars and just want to read about and discuss things Star Trek. ...which, believe it or not, is most…

I came in here to say exactly this. The mods don't own the subreddit. Reddit isn't just going to go "well, guess we can't have a Startrek sub with the most obvious name for one because the mods of /r/startrek don't want to use reddit anymore."

The reinstated reddit sub will very quickly overtake the Lemmy sub in activity. Many of the posters who went to Lemmy will slowly migrate back to reddit. The mods will have lost their "power" over a very popular subreddit with nothing to show for it.

That's how the mod wars end. Many mods will voluntarily end the boycott once it becomes clear that there thousands of people who will happily take their place.

Maybe Reddit throws them a bone by allowing an exception for Apollo and a few other popular third party clients so the mods can save face (or maybe not).

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