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Gov. DeSantis signs bill banning most direct-to-consumer auto sales

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Re: Gov. DeSantis signs bill banning most direct-to-consumer auto sales

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm trying to understand it the same. How is this different to them saying "you have to buy airline tickets via a travel-agent?", or "you cannot buy from Intel, only eBuyer?".

These dealer protection laws made sense decades ago, they no longer make sense, but dealers bribe our politicians to protect them. That is all it is.

How did they make sense decades ago? What changed?

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> The attempt by auto manufacturers to cut out the dealer would only result in higher prices and less customer service to the public,” he said. “The new car dealer is the customer’s advocate when it comes to warranty work and service on a manufacturer’s product, and this bill will protect that So this is the reason given in the article, but what are good reasons, if any, to prevent direct-to-customer sales? I haven't…

I'm trying to understand it the same. How is this different to them saying "you have to buy airline tickets via a travel-agent?", or "you cannot buy from Intel, only eBuyer?".

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Re: Gov. DeSantis signs bill banning most direct-to-consumer auto sales

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> The attempt by auto manufacturers to cut out the dealer would only result in higher prices and less customer service to the public,” he said. “The new car dealer is the customer’s advocate when it comes to warranty work and service on a manufacturer’s product, and this bill will protect that So this is the reason given in the article, but what are good reasons, if any, to prevent direct-to-customer sales? I haven't…

> So this is the reason given in the article, but what are good reasons, if any, to prevent direct-to-customer sales? because cars require service, someone needs to do that service, be trained and have master techs on that service. How do you handle lemon laws without dealerships? Just look at the nightmare tesla has been for owners with years of bad repairs, delays, etc. OEMs provide a bunch of stuff that is adhoc t…

> because cars require service, someone needs to do that service, be trained and have master techs on that service.

My cars have had no trouble getting service at independent mechanics.

> How do you handle lemon laws without dealerships?

The same way we handle them with dealerships? The organization that sold you the car is responsible for the fixes, or refunding the vehicle if it can't be fixed.

Re: Gov. DeSantis signs bill banning most direct-to-consumer auto sales

#55

Florida has prohibited direct to consumer sales for over half a century with an especially stringent automobile dealer franchise law. The interesting point is the carve-out for Tesla.

Florida also recently passed a special law for SpaceX removing liability for launch related deaths of employees or something. A few weeks after the flight termination system failed for 40 seconds.

Re: Gov. DeSantis signs bill banning most direct-to-consumer auto sales

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> The attempt by auto manufacturers to cut out the dealer would only result in higher prices and less customer service to the public,” he said. “The new car dealer is the customer’s advocate when it comes to warranty work and service on a manufacturer’s product, and this bill will protect that So this is the reason given in the article, but what are good reasons, if any, to prevent direct-to-customer sales? I haven't…

It's complete bullshit. I despise both car dealerships and realtors. They exist to service themselves.

I've had pretty universally bad experiences with dealerships, especially ironic in relation to what DeSantis has said here because I distinctly remember advocating myself that something should be covered under the manufacturers warranty, and the dealership said it wouldn't be, and I was very certain it would be, and I had to call the manufacturer (Kia) to get the dealership to play ball. They didn't want to go the warranty route because it turns out, it paid less for the repair.

Realtors on the other hand, I've had some good interactions there, the last 2 I used saved me money and got me more for my dollars, at least.

Re: Gov. DeSantis signs bill banning most direct-to-consumer auto sales

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> The attempt by auto manufacturers to cut out the dealer would only result in higher prices and less customer service to the public,” he said. “The new car dealer is the customer’s advocate when it comes to warranty work and service on a manufacturer’s product, and this bill will protect that So this is the reason given in the article, but what are good reasons, if any, to prevent direct-to-customer sales? I haven't…

> So this is the reason given in the article, but what are good reasons, if any, to prevent direct-to-customer sales? because cars require service, someone needs to do that service, be trained and have master techs on that service. How do you handle lemon laws without dealerships? Just look at the nightmare tesla has been for owners with years of bad repairs, delays, etc. OEMs provide a bunch of stuff that is adhoc t…

That provides an explanation for why the consumer might choose to buy from a dealership, but not a reason for why they must. In fact, said bill still allows Tesla to sell direct-to-consumer, so the lawmakers couldn't even find a reason to not let consumers make a choice in the general case, only if buying from a set list of manufacturers.

Re: Gov. DeSantis signs bill banning most direct-to-consumer auto sales

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The auto dealership lobby is one of the most powerful in America. It leans heavily Republican, and Republicans dutifully propose legislations which protect these wealthy -- but almost wholly unnecessary -- middlemen. Slate had an expose [1] recently about them that is very enlightening. [1] https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/05/rich-republicans...

If it’s only Republicans why is it that heavily Democratic states like CA or NY also require dealerships in most cases? (CA is slightly better than NY but still doesn’t allow direct sales for 90% of vehicles)

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Regulatory capture? Is there a difference or do they just go hand in hand?

Hand in hand.

Regulatory capture is one aspect of crony capitalism, but subsidies for your buddies, bailouts, and nepotism are all parts as well (and plenty more).

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