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Re: SETI scientists to devise plan for lunar listening station

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if they are reading the news these seti scientists must be so excited about how the government got some aliens and their spaceships

Why would they be excited? That would certainly cut their funding.

> UFOS: CHALLENGE TO SETI SPECIALISTS (Friedman, 2002)

> Major news media and many members of the scientific community have taken strongly to the radio-telescope-based SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) program as espoused by its charismatic leaders, but not supported by any evidence whatsoever. In turn, perhaps understandably, they feel it necessary to attack the ideas of alien visitors (UFOs) as though they were based on tabloid nonsense instead of on far more evidence than has been provided for SETI. One might hope, vainly I am afraid, that they would be concerned with The Search for Extraterrestrial Visitors (SETV). I would hereby like to challenge the SETI specialists, members of the scientific community, and the media to recognize the overwhelming evidence and significant consequences of alien visits and to expose the serious deficiencies of the SETI-related claims. I have publicly and privately offered to debate any of them. No takers so far.

https://web.archive.org/web/20191222220058/http://stantonfri...

Re: SETI scientists to devise plan for lunar listening station

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Why is it so important for them to figure out whether or not there is (intelligent) life out there that we can detect with our instruments?

There's a very strong argument to be made that making first contact with an intelligent extraterrestrial species would be the most significant single event in human history.

I can't say I have high hopes given the odds of making first contact, but it'd still be a huge milestone for our civilization if we can survive it.

Re: SETI scientists to devise plan for lunar listening station

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Why is it so important for them to figure out whether or not there is (intelligent) life out there that we can detect with our instruments?

There's a very strong argument to be made that making first contact with an intelligent extraterrestrial species would be the most significant single event in human history. I can't say I have high hopes given the odds of making first contact, but it'd still be a huge milestone for our civilization if we can survive it.

Even just knowing they are there/coming or might arrive in 1000y would have huge effects on human society. Not being alone as a species has fundamental existential meaning and religion.

Would the effects be good? The truth can have bad effects, but so does not confronting reality.

Re: SETI scientists to devise plan for lunar listening station

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While I don't think it's necessarily time to give up on classical SETI, it seems very unlikely we find contemporaneous civilizations interested in beaming radio back and forth. This idea seems more interesting to me: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1908.08543.pdf

Along with combing the surface of the moon looking for existing impacts of potentially artificial objects.

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