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Re: Apollo Remastered

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I believe all of the new scans are available here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/projectapolloarchive/albums

These look like to be the non-enhanced scans. Compare https://www.flickr.com/photos/projectapolloarchive/217878648... and https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/70f4b600092729ee3a719066227d7... (from the article https://www.theguardian.com/science/2022/aug/26/apollo-space... )

Re: Apollo Remastered

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I had written this comment almost verbatim before getting distracted at work. There's gotta be some public-facing way to access these images. NASA wouldn't just let any jabroni access these highly guarded films to sell them, they have to have gotten something out of it for them (and by extension the public) EDIT: Clarifying since it sounded like I was calling the guy a jabroni, didn't intend that

https://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/imagegallery/index.html https://www.nasa.gov/missions https://images.nasa.gov/ If you're unable to find something you know should be there, a FOIA request should fill the gap.

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Re: Apollo Remastered

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Well it's a thinly veiled ad... and you can't really easily get digital copies - which somehow feels weird/wrong for space stuff. You typically can get that in full resolution directly from NASA. Is the web interface representative of the final quality? Just looking at an example: https://www.apolloremastered.com/shop/p/as15-82-11056-to-110... Even mildly zoomed in the image looks quite crummy and blurry. Fine for a…

Here's the highres scan of the left half of that image: http://tothemoon.ser.asu.edu/gallery/Apollo/15/Hasselblad%20...

Click "next image" to see the right half. You can see there's a lot of work to join the 2 images, remove the lens flare and to make the colors more true (I presume) to real life.

The site also offers downloads, the "raw version" of the source images is 2x332MB large.

Re: Apollo Remastered

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I had written this comment almost verbatim before getting distracted at work. There's gotta be some public-facing way to access these images. NASA wouldn't just let any jabroni access these highly guarded films to sell them, they have to have gotten something out of it for them (and by extension the public) EDIT: Clarifying since it sounded like I was calling the guy a jabroni, didn't intend that

Hundreds of hours of labor (and the hours developing professional skills prior to that labor) are not free. Art-grade photo printing is not free. The book is huge in all 3 dimensions. Nearly every page is a full-page photo print. It is a work of art, an artifact, and well worth the price. I love my copy.

I don't doubt the quality or the amount of effort put into it. I do feel, that since the photos are in the public domain, that the digital scans should also be in the public domain. I don't feel like paying $200 for remastered prints when I could pay $5 for good-enough-for-me prints

Re: Apollo Remastered

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oh they are finally replacing the reddit backend with their own!? nope it's the moon.

I've been very much hoping that Apollo and the rest just pivot to being amazing Lemmy/kbin clients, with multiple instances pre-configured to use. That would be the biggest coup of all. Which is exactly what I thought had happened when I saw a title of "Apollo Remastered". 'Oh, you're going to price us all out? You don't care about third party client users? That's fine, I guess you won't care if hundreds of thousands…

Same here, I clicked on the link so fast So far I really like lemmy/Kbin, but the content and mobile apps I sorely miss quality-wise.

Re: Apollo Remastered

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Hundreds of hours of labor (and the hours developing professional skills prior to that labor) are not free. Art-grade photo printing is not free. The book is huge in all 3 dimensions. Nearly every page is a full-page photo print. It is a work of art, an artifact, and well worth the price. I love my copy.

I don't doubt the quality or the amount of effort put into it. I do feel, that since the photos are in the public domain, that the digital scans should also be in the public domain. I don't feel like paying $200 for remastered prints when I could pay $5 for good-enough-for-me prints

The digital scans are public domain [1] though I think you have to do a little digging on NASA.gov for the raw TIFF data. It's the remastered images made by Andy Saunders that aren't in the public domain. Anyone is free to make their own remastered versions and release those into the public domain (or make a competing book/print service)

[1] https://www.flickr.com/photos/projectapolloarchive/albums

Re: Apollo Remastered

#38
post #17

Well it's a thinly veiled ad... and you can't really easily get digital copies - which somehow feels weird/wrong for space stuff. You typically can get that in full resolution directly from NASA. Is the web interface representative of the final quality? Just looking at an example: https://www.apolloremastered.com/shop/p/as15-82-11056-to-110... Even mildly zoomed in the image looks quite crummy and blurry. Fine for a…

That must be a web quality pic. The ones in his book are far higher quality. Too bad I can't nail the book to my wall..

Not with that attitude, you can't.

Re: Apollo Remastered

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According to the author's bio [1], he was remastering photos of Neil Armstrong in 2019 for NASA for the 50th anniversary of Apollo 11 so clearly the timing lines up. Multiple sources on NASA and elsewhere point to that Flikr gallery. > The quality of the few I sampled is also nothing special. The ones in the TFA are remastered - color correct among other things. The ones in the Flikr are the unprocessed versions of A…

From that site: "The raw output from the digital scan of a 70mm Hasselblad frame, is a huge 1.3GB, 16-bit TIFF file. At approximately 11,000 pixels square, a single image would require a 12-foot x 12-foot computer monitor to display the whole image at standard resolution. " The Flikr images must be jpg conversions of the original TIFFs, certainly in an attempt to reduce file sizes. I'm not sure where the 11,000 comes…

11,000 pixels / 72DPI = 152 inches = 12' 6". Math checks out.

Re: Apollo Remastered

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Following the links throughout the thread, I've not seen a description of how the remastering process worked.

>The scans of this original flight film have been digitally remastered in a lossless format and then converted to laser / LED light

"Lossless encoding" is a red herring if you are looking for fidelity to ground truth, see:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22802909

amongst others

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