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Re: Google is getting a lot worse because of the Reddit blackouts

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reportgunner wrote: post #96
badtension wrote: post #84

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Reddit is one of the few places where you can find an honest (on average) discussion between common people about a variety of topics. This is very unique if you understand that the world is a complex beast and yes/no or authoritative answers may not be the best way to learn about it. Having perspective of many people that you can parse and apply to your own world model is very powerful, be it politics, local events o…

I would like to see an example of that. I dont remember a single time I found anything useful on reddit other than info copy pasted from some website that had actually usable UX.

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Re: Google is getting a lot worse because of the Reddit blackouts

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Post by reportgunner »

[deleted] wrote: post #101
reportgunner wrote: post #96

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I would like to see an example of that. I dont remember a single time I found anything useful on reddit other than info copy pasted from some website that had actually usable UX.

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Fair, thanks !

I realized that looking for reviews like this I would look for reviews in my local language, which you probably can't.

Re: Google is getting a lot worse because of the Reddit blackouts

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Post by bshipp »

gumballindie wrote: post #85
seebye wrote: post #82

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> I expect open source will follow suit in either removing projects This will just lead to forks (if your project was popular).

Well i am not talking about impulsive “make repo private” type of action but rather the team that maintains large open source projects to take coordinated action in moving, removing or updating the license of their projects. Forking code is not an issue - i can fork half of github and it wont mean much without maintenance.

> i can fork half of github and it wont mean much without maintenance

Well....yeah? open source doesn't mean you don't have to do anything to make it work. Many times I've forked a project, cleaned up maintenance issues so it ran on my instance, and then did a pull request so the original author could incorporate the update.

While we are blessed with many turn-key projects that require little more installation effort than following detailed instructions, FOSS is supposed to be a community effort, not something falling on the shoulders of a tiny maintenance team.

Re: Google is getting a lot worse because of the Reddit blackouts

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Post by InCityDreams »

narrator wrote: post #26

Just use Yandex.com already. It's like Google search from 15 years ago.

Yandex, I just use for 'spicier' content...they can have my sordid thoughts. Amazing how many .com companies are on there with a lot of Russian sub-content.

Re: Google is getting a lot worse because of the Reddit blackouts

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Post by badpun »

cartermatic wrote: post #90
_8j50 wrote: post #41

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I see people say this all the time, can you give me an example of your search queries? I never had to search reddit specific stuff but I do add 'github' all the time.

I've been searching for a new camera to buy. Rather than reading general reviews from blogs where I don't know if they're sponsored or not through a Google search, I was searching "Fujifilm x-h2s review reddit" or "best camera under $2000 reddit" on Google instead. I've found a lot of the time, it can be hard to tell if a blog post from a Google search has actually used the product, or is just keyword spamming and ho…

If I see a referral link in any kind of advisory/review article, I immediately assume the whole website is a low-effort, no-ethics attempt at making money, and not much else. There are very few exceptions to that rule, where it's fairly obvious that the site is doing fairly extensive testing or research and not just spamming with chatGPT-like platitutes.

Re: Google is getting a lot worse because of the Reddit blackouts

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Post by specproc »

ideamotor wrote: post #46
deafpolygon wrote: post #23

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Don't worry - it knows. Reddit wants to extract the value asap. I'm pretty sure they're looking to liquidate Reddit and go big on AI.

I think data harvesting for AI is the real reason Twitter and Reddit want to limit access. Even I was thinking how easy it would be to mine both sites. It sucks because that’s the end of the (quasi) open web.

My hope is that the old are dying and the new cannot yet be born, and that whatever comes next is as, if not more programmatically accessible.

It's kinda on us to ensure that it's only in the interregnum that we have the morbid and dysfunctional symptoms.

Re: Google is getting a lot worse because of the Reddit blackouts

#107

Post by badtension »

reportgunner wrote: post #96
badtension wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reddit is one of the few places where you can find an honest (on average) discussion between common people about a variety of topics. This is very unique if you understand that the world is a complex beast and yes/no or authoritative answers may not be the best way to learn about it. Having perspective of many people that you can parse and apply to your own world model is very powerful, be it politics, local events o…

I would like to see an example of that. I dont remember a single time I found anything useful on reddit other than info copy pasted from some website that had actually usable UX.

I was thinking about using specialized earplugs in my daily life to isolate myself from the street and neighbour noise.

Found reviews of a couple of products and then chatted up someone who said a couple of days earlier was gonna test some of them. It feels like a community of people who care about stuff.

I think you're just bashing it for the sake of it.

Re: Google is getting a lot worse because of the Reddit blackouts

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Post by malfist »

b112 wrote: post #78
harimau777 wrote: post #70

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Unless you happen to already know of a specialized forum for a topic, it increasingly feels like Reddit and Wikipedia are the only parts of the internet that are still valuable; everything else is content farms or SEO spam. Even then I'm finding that Wikipedia's quality has dropped dramatically in recent years. As they become more zealous about only including "encyclopedic information", I'm increasingly finding pages…

everything else is content farms or SEO spam. No! The rest of the content is still there, loads of it. Google simple has stopped caring, no it is not "too hard", they just don't care enough. Case in point, Google even aids in crappy results, by aliasing your search terms, preventing precision, putting monetization above all else. Google sucks . SEO/spam is not worse, Google is, they know it, they do not care, because…

I feel like everything has turned into the blogospam that recipe blogs are known for. I searched the other day for how to use github's personal access tokens. The first 4 results are all unhelpful blogspam. Pages and pages of text talking about personal access tokens. No details on how to use it. Not a single snippet of command line, nothing.

Re: Google is getting a lot worse because of the Reddit blackouts

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Post by Ancalagon »

malfist wrote: post #108
b112 wrote: post #78

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everything else is content farms or SEO spam. No! The rest of the content is still there, loads of it. Google simple has stopped caring, no it is not "too hard", they just don't care enough. Case in point, Google even aids in crappy results, by aliasing your search terms, preventing precision, putting monetization above all else. Google sucks . SEO/spam is not worse, Google is, they know it, they do not care, because…

I feel like everything has turned into the blogospam that recipe blogs are known for. I searched the other day for how to use github's personal access tokens. The first 4 results are all unhelpful blogspam. Pages and pages of text talking about personal access tokens. No details on how to use it. Not a single snippet of command line, nothing.

Not to mention half the first page results are sponsored ads

Re: Google is getting a lot worse because of the Reddit blackouts

#110

Post by morkalork »

malfist wrote: post #108
b112 wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

everything else is content farms or SEO spam. No! The rest of the content is still there, loads of it. Google simple has stopped caring, no it is not "too hard", they just don't care enough. Case in point, Google even aids in crappy results, by aliasing your search terms, preventing precision, putting monetization above all else. Google sucks . SEO/spam is not worse, Google is, they know it, they do not care, because…

I feel like everything has turned into the blogospam that recipe blogs are known for. I searched the other day for how to use github's personal access tokens. The first 4 results are all unhelpful blogspam. Pages and pages of text talking about personal access tokens. No details on how to use it. Not a single snippet of command line, nothing.

Ugh, I can see it now: How to use virtual environments with jupyter lab. Before going into the details of this tutorial, let me tell you about the first time I ever used a computer. My father was working as a travelling shoe salesmen at the time...
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