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Re: The Reddit blackout will continue

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Post by ChoGGi »

HelloNurse wrote: post #448
cykros wrote: post #388

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The difference was, back in the good old days, you were making friends with the people who owned and ran the platforms you were on. And they weren't (usually) slurping up all manner of data about you to sell off access to in one form or other. That is not the case now. On the other hand, from a parent's perspective, the "good old days" were an absolute nightmare, because nobody was particularly responsible for polici…

Social media platforms and their "policing content" caused major cultural degradation. For example the loose girls who 25 years ago would have maintained web galleries of honest, mostly well made naked pics of themselves now post Instagram reels where they use a strong light source from behind to display the silhouette of their pussy through a thin dress: no nudity, but far more perversion.

Well Yakko, a gentle foliage of shadows is what I get off on.

Re: The Reddit blackout will continue

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Post by scheeseman486 »

pmoriarty wrote: post #464
scheeseman486 wrote: post #452

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Discord can make money selling ads too, and I would not be at all surprised to see ads in every Discord channel in the future, especially as (unlike Reddit) it doesn't have any third-party clients through which users can circumvent any ads Discord may want to show." This sounds really uncool, like something that would make a trendy new social media platform flush with investment attractive! That it's all about ads i…

The people who complain about ads are the kind that use ad blockers -- ie. a small minority of internet users. Ordinary people don't complain about ads, don't know that ad blockers even exist, and don't seek out ad-free alternatives. Ads to them are like water is to fish.

Users with adblockers in the US was at 25% in 2019 with adoption steadily growing over the years, based on a quick google search at least. But even if it was 10% that wouldn't be a "small minority" and provides an explanation for recent efforts from platforms to force adblockers out.

There's also a fair number of people who might not install an adblocker but don't engage with advertising, click through rates are even lower than the number of people who have adblockers installed.

Online ads aren't sustainable, it's a grift prolonged by advertising fraud.

Re: The Reddit blackout will continue

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Post by l72 »

zozbot234 wrote: post #201
yellowapple wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's the thing I'm looking forward to with the evolution of the "Fediverse" and other efforts toward federation/decentralization. The problem with traditional forums was that they were all little silos disconnected from one another; now those forums can talk to each other via ActivityPub or what have you, offering a nicer balance between "isolated but tight-knit community" v. "expansive but highly-impersonal masses…

Are there traditional forums/bulletin boards with Fediverse interop? The Fediverse platforms I'm aware of seem to all be focusing on cloning the existing UX of big walled-garden sites, which seems like a dubious approach. We know that forums/BB's can work quite well, so why not bring that UX back with "federation" (i.e. interacting with outside users and service instances) as a pure added feature?

There is a phpBB front end to lemmy:

https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmyBB

Re: The Reddit blackout will continue

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Post by lolsal »

goplayoutside wrote: post #158

I just opened my subs back up. I mod a few subs for a niche hobby -- there's probably a few tens of thousands of us in the US. The majority of us are not especially technically inclined, and the only other place where the community regularly gathers online is Facebook Groups, which many of us want nothing to do with anymore. I long ago largely stopped using reddit outside of the subs I mod, except browsing the front…

Just wanted to point this out in case you really didn’t see it:

> I long ago stopped using Reddit [except for volunteering to moderate free content for the platform], [consuming the main page content], and [using content from the platform in internet searches].

That’s a lot of usage for someone that stopped using it.

Also:

> Reddit as a platform means nothing to me, [except that it is the home of a niche hobby and we have no alternatives, or aren’t willing to relocate as a community].

Reading these statements really makes it seem like you contribute, use and rely on Reddit infrastructure, technology and platform as a whole.

Re: The Reddit blackout will continue

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Post by Karellen »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #112
jampa wrote: post #22

It’s impressive how their CEO keeps shooting himself in the foot on this one, he could compromise a bit by at least expanding the deadline on the pricing changes, but instead he decides to provoke and double down. The leaked internal memo, which is obvious that would leak (after all it is a 2,000 person company) is a clear provocation: > We do anticipate many of them will come back by Wednesday, as many have said as…

I love this bit: > While the two biggest third-party apps, Apollo and RIF, along with a couple others, have said they plan to shut down at the end of the month, we are still in conversation with some of the others. And as I mentioned in my post last week, we will exempt accessibility-focused apps and so far have agreements with RedReader and Dystopia. What is the term for when there's a worker strike and instead of e…

> What is the term for when there's a worker strike and instead of engaging with organizers/union representatives, the company approaches some individual workers [...] to start an inner conflict between the workers and have the strike collapse on itself?

Standard operating procedure/business as usual.

Edit: If the company was interested in engaging with organisers/union reps, the strike would probably have been avoided in the first place.

Re: The Reddit blackout will continue

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Post by bibanez »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #112
jampa wrote: post #22

It’s impressive how their CEO keeps shooting himself in the foot on this one, he could compromise a bit by at least expanding the deadline on the pricing changes, but instead he decides to provoke and double down. The leaked internal memo, which is obvious that would leak (after all it is a 2,000 person company) is a clear provocation: > We do anticipate many of them will come back by Wednesday, as many have said as…

I love this bit: > While the two biggest third-party apps, Apollo and RIF, along with a couple others, have said they plan to shut down at the end of the month, we are still in conversation with some of the others. And as I mentioned in my post last week, we will exempt accessibility-focused apps and so far have agreements with RedReader and Dystopia. What is the term for when there's a worker strike and instead of e…

Very interesting read. If they're going all out (Reddit co.) it means this is important

Re: The Reddit blackout will continue

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Post by the_lucifer »

edderly wrote: post #16

Since I only use reddit logged in and having the user preference set to the old UI, the most effective way for me to go cold turkey is to logout. Any twitch response to back to reddit presents the newer layout and I'm instantly compelled to close the browser tab again.

Honestly this could be a good idea, and if I really wanted to comment the added friction of actually logging in would put me off

Re: The Reddit blackout will continue

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Post by dogleash »

paganel wrote: post #85
jampa wrote: post #22

It’s impressive how their CEO keeps shooting himself in the foot on this one, he could compromise a bit by at least expanding the deadline on the pricing changes, but instead he decides to provoke and double down. The leaked internal memo, which is obvious that would leak (after all it is a 2,000 person company) is a clear provocation: > We do anticipate many of them will come back by Wednesday, as many have said as…

> It’s impressive how their CEO keeps shooting himself in the foot on this one You don't negotiate with blackmailers, because this is what this is now, blackmail. If things continue like this I give it 5 to 7 days until reddit the company forcefully removes these mods.

> because this is what this is now, blackmail

I think you meant to say extortion, not blackmail. But it isn't that either.

Re: The Reddit blackout will continue

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Post by raxxorraxor »

mjburgess wrote: post #56

The first 10 years of the internet were volunteers creating for other volunteers. The next 10 was volunteers for 'users'. The last 10, for corporations. The commons built in the 90s was turned into a playground in the 2000s and is now a oil well being mined by megacorps. What, I hope, interest rates are doing is shifting the balance of power to its natural point: the commons is owned by the volunteers. Megacorp's abi…

Volunteer doesn't equal volunteer though. Some are in it for the topic, some are in it for their own persona. Reddit was more attractive for some people because it wasn't as much focused on people and more around topics. That changed a bit and you cannot really draw a line too hard, but it is still the case to a large degree.

I doubt wikipedians are big on personalities either, although that demographic changed a lot too. It did have to change though because business was suddenly much more interested as well.

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