BBEdit: Where Respect Is Due • Hacker News Board

Re: BBEdit: Where Respect Is Due

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Post by smohare » Wed, Jun 14, 2023, 11:14 AM UTC

alwillis wrote: post #21

miles wrote: post #13

FTA: "We’ve always had the utmost respect for the user. Every internal decision about look and function answers the questions 'What does the customer need?' and 'How can we help them be more productive?' (Not 'How can we give them what they’re asking for?' because that isn’t the right question to answer.)" I experienced this first hand when asking Rich to restore the "hard wrap to window width" feature in TextWrangle…

> Since then, I've purchased BBEdit licenses, but use other editors when I need to hard wrap text to window width. BBEdit is incredibly scriptable and extensible. You could have written a short script in AppleScript, Perl, Ruby, Python, etc. to perform this task without leaving BBEdit.

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Re: BBEdit: Where Respect Is Due

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Post by smohare » Wed, Jun 14, 2023, 11:31 AM UTC

masswerk wrote: post #41

miles wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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BTW, BBEdit has a `hard wrap` scripting command with a limit option (page guide, window width, character width). And, no, GPT is not a tool for factual verification, it creates probable chains of words that are likely to be found impressive by humans.

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Re: BBEdit: Where Respect Is Due

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Post by txdm » Wed, Jun 14, 2023, 11:59 AM UTC

I used BBEdit for about 10 years. I liked being able to create macros that included multiple grep search/replaces. I think I remember being able to files items from the sidebar straight into a SFTP app instead of opening them in a separate finder window...but that might be a false memory. It was extremely hard for me to leave it behind for SublimeText, but I did...and eventually moved on to VSCodium from there.

Re: BBEdit: Where Respect Is Due

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Post by txdm » Wed, Jun 14, 2023, 12:05 PM UTC

tqwhite wrote: post #137

And I failed to mention the one aspect where bbedit exceeds every editor I have ever tried (a few years ago, I actually did a half year where I tried everything): Search and Replace. The Search and Replace feature of bbedit is absolutely the best ever. When I am forced to use another editor, I am appalled by contrast. Since I use this 1000 times a day, I will never change. bbedit forever!

BBEdit's ability to save search and replaces, and even long sequences of multiple search and replaces, is still unmatched.

Re: BBEdit: Where Respect Is Due

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Post by tbossanova » Wed, Jun 14, 2023, 1:15 PM UTC

dietrichepp wrote: post #116

thaumaturgy wrote: post #30

Ohh, BBEdit. I've long since moved on from the Mac platform, but I still have really fond memories of it and wish more text editors could match it (SublimeText is pretty good too). I remember when BBEdit came out. It was revolutionary at the time. It was a fun challenge to find "large" files to test it on, and for a while nobody was sure how it did the magic it did. It shipped with a really clean UI and it gave me my…

My memory of CodeWarrior is a bit different. It didn't seem like a pig, but BBEdit just worked better for editing files. BBEdit had better search/replace, shortcuts for navigating text, everything was just better in BBEdit.

I used to use windows notepad before I took my files into uni to put them into CodeWarrior

Re: BBEdit: Where Respect Is Due

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Post by Friedduck » Wed, Jun 14, 2023, 1:52 PM UTC

tiffanyh wrote: post #34

UltraEdit I never understood why there was so much love for BBEdit on Mac and so little love for UltraEdit on Windows. They were both released around the same time, selling to the same audience just on different platforms. This was also during a time where there was many options.

I haven’t kept up with it but UE is still the most functional editor I’ve used. I’ve dabbled in Sublime, BBEdit, VIM and others but UE had some tricks none other have matched.

Re: BBEdit: Where Respect Is Due

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Post by Suppafly » Wed, Jun 14, 2023, 4:47 PM UTC

tiffanyh wrote: post #34

UltraEdit I never understood why there was so much love for BBEdit on Mac and so little love for UltraEdit on Windows. They were both released around the same time, selling to the same audience just on different platforms. This was also during a time where there was many options.

On the Windows side there were a bunch of editors that had similar features or had already solved the issues BBEdit solved for Mac users. It was popular, but not ubiquitous the way BBEdit was.