I used to spend a lot of time on Reddit. This blackout has helped me realize there is more to life. I used to be pretty active averaging a post a day and 10+ comments. But, Reddit lost me now. Of course, not a big deal for them given how little impact the blackout is making in terms of revenue and so on, but this one was necessary for me.
Reddit Doubles Down
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#422Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, like the definition of Nazi and the fact that Goodwin's law no longer means you lose the argument.
It's not that Godwin's law meant you lost the argument. Godwin's law was just an observation, that a common evil, is an easy thing to reduce someone who disagrees with you to. So you have to avoid doing that, if you want to be able to maintain any level of discourse. That, of course, goes out the window when the person you're arguing with legitimately identifies as a Nazi.
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#423Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't understand the Apollo side of this --- that's literally what he's being offered, by his own math. $3/month/user. Fairs fair. He has enough users to make millions a year: their servers aren't his for free forever. People are tying themselves into knots turning Reddit into either near-bankrupt or evil. Or hyper-focusing on particular elements that are just disputable human interactions, like most (i.e. suggesti…
You’ve either done no reading on the subject or are trolling/arguing in bad faith.
No, you. More than happy to debate it with you.
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#424Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't understand the Apollo side of this --- that's literally what he's being offered, by his own math. $3/month/user. Fairs fair. He has enough users to make millions a year: their servers aren't his for free forever. People are tying themselves into knots turning Reddit into either near-bankrupt or evil. Or hyper-focusing on particular elements that are just disputable human interactions, like most (i.e. suggesti…
This is an incredibly disingenuous take. First, no it is not 3$. Apple takes a 30% cut, and requires a yearly fee to keep the app on the store. There is also a separate server cost, and a cost associated with paying an engineer. The actual cost is 5 dollars. Second, there is only one single month to make all changes. Pricing was announced only 30 days prior. That means payment setup, subscription changes, app update…
This is an incredibly disingenuous take. ;)
- $3/user is the Apollo author’s projected costs. Dunno what the rest of that means. “The App Store charges 30%!!!” simply isn’t relevant other than for devs projecting anything that’s hurt them over the last decade into this story
- What are “all the changes”? My understanding is he’d release an update with a new API key with a CC attached.
- If it’s gravely important that the yearly subscriptions who have paid already get free Reddit, why is he shutting down?
- Why is it impossible to give a finite list of customers a refund in 30 days? Again, isn’t he doing it anyway?
- I’ve developed on the App Store since day 30 and don’t know what App Store rule you’re referring to.
- I think your claim is Apple might not let him get an update out? That’s fine. Do what everyone else does and _don’t add the credit card to the old API key_.
- He can’t afford $60K/month? Why not? Charge more than costs. That’s how business works, you don’t have an inalienable right to free APIs.
- he can’t afford $60K/month, redux: he bring in millions a year, right?
- His two claims are:
1. he was offended because Reddit said the app is inefficient - he won’t put it into quotes so I’m guessing it was just generic “you could optimize your api calls” advice
2. He made a very bad joke that he frames as “mostly joking” and frankly, was blackmail. We’re seeing the other side of it now.
Anything else?
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#425Earlier quoted context omitted.
The president demonstrated it from 2016 to 2020. We are just seeing the copycats now.
Trump is to blame for the behavior of the company that banned Trump's subreddit? Is there anything this man can't be blamed for?
Well, he did things more brazenly and on a bigger stage than anyone before him, and got away with it. Big numbers of people noticed.
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#426Earlier quoted context omitted.
Who is going to mod it.. couple reddits that I follow daily are public again, however there are no new posts as mods stopped accepting anything. I am genuinely curious how this is going to work going forward.
Reddit (the company) controls the platform. They can just install new mods if the current mods arent doing their job. I doubt most users would even notice that the mod names have changed.
They will then need to find an pay those mods.
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#427Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm talking about deterring ML data harvesting, or at least getting a better price for it.
If it were about ML, why did they go heavily after third-party apps, even making up lies about one of the developers?
Because it wasn't about ML. As I said, I believe Reddit was lying. But the ML story was at least plausible at the time.
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#428I don't really understand why it had to be this way. It's so easy to think of other ways this could have been handled. Even just announcing the same change with 6 months of lead time rather than 1 month would have gone over better. Or boil the frog and gradually introduce API restrictions. It's as if the CEO is purposefully being as belligerent as possible to rile people up.
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#429I don't really understand why it had to be this way. It's so easy to think of other ways this could have been handled. Even just announcing the same change with 6 months of lead time rather than 1 month would have gone over better. Or boil the frog and gradually introduce API restrictions. It's as if the CEO is purposefully being as belligerent as possible to rile people up.
You go the twitter way. Just cap all existing API keys to roughly the number of users they currently have. Everyone who is currently using RIF or Apollo or $whatever can continue to use it. They can't add any new users. Super simple, nobody is losing anything, nobody is having anything taken away. All new users would be fed into the app. Eventually the 3rd party apps would have died off. It would have been a slow, pa…
Twitter capped the third party apps ages ago, but they wouldn’t die. It was still a LOUD death when Musk finally cut them off.
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#430It will be interesting to see the eventual outcome of this saga. I have already seen backlash against the backlash in many subs. /r/NBA, which was mentioned in the article, had a poll one day before the blackout and made the decision based on 8000 votes (out of a total 8+ million members). Casual users were not happy to find out that they would have nowhere to discuss the most important game of the season, and the mo…
/r/nba would have seen a huge drop right after the finals anyway.
that subreddit is great because of the off season s* posts actually haha