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Re: Google is getting a lot worse because of the Reddit blackouts

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Post by vacillator »

nmeagent wrote: post #12
Rebelgecko wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been using the cached version in the Google search results. It doesn't always work but I've had good luck with reddit during the blackout

I've been doing a bit of this as well. Unfortunately, it seems that Google hides the 'Cached' link on mobile devices (at least in Safari) unless you 'request' the desktop version of the search results page. I don't know why they do this; it's extremely obnoxious. But then again, this kind of obtuse nonsense is par for the course these days.

I simply prefix `cache:` to the URL and that brings up the cached page for me. Of course this will only work if your default search engine is Google.

Re: Google is getting a lot worse because of the Reddit blackouts

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Post by deliriumchn »

nashashmi wrote: post #49

What are the chances of Reddit charging subreddits a $$ for going private? What are the chances of Reddit adding red tape for removing subreddits?

It cannot charge subs anything since they don't pay them anything. They can try to forcefully make them go public or change mods (I kinda see how it can go bad and turn into r/anarchychess) but thats kinda it.

Re: Google is getting a lot worse because of the Reddit blackouts

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Post by bloqs »

bagacrap wrote: post #3
acters wrote: post #2

This is the biggest benefit reddit provided to the user base. Google search has been lackluster and appending the word reddit allowed me to see plenty of good anecdotal and informative focused discussions without fluffing up the content for SEO.

Plenty of paid content on the mattress subs and I'm sure many others

Baby with the bathwater. The paid shills are typically obvious and do not survive proper cross-thread analysis

Re: Google is getting a lot worse because of the Reddit blackouts

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Post by arcanemachiner »

ectospheno wrote: post #11

Not sure why google should get a pass on the reddit blackout. Ublock: google.*###rso .MjjYud a[href*="reddit.com"]:upward(.MjjYud)

Yeah, no thanks. Those old threads contain some of the only remaining quality content for like half of my queries.

Re: Google is getting a lot worse because of the Reddit blackouts

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Post by quadsteel »

maegul wrote: post #54

So, genuine question, how much of Reddit is archived? If there’s a lot on the internet archive, say, could that now be bundled up similar to how the Usenet stuff is on Google groups?

"These archives are purely text and include no media. They are json items scraped from the Reddit API and include all information for every post and comment 2005-06 to 2023-03."

https://old.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/1479c7b/histor...

Re: Google is getting a lot worse because of the Reddit blackouts

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Post by 8organicbits »

Osiris wrote: post #30
hedora wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use duck duck go, and haven’t had to resort to that. Anyway, I can’t think of any searches where appending stuff like that wouldn’t be universally beneficial (or detrimental), so I don’t see the personalization angle.

They just use Bing user the hood and the results are awful. I use some browsers that default to Bing/DuckDuckGo and every time I can’t find something I switch to Google and find the answer right away. Bing seems to surface a lot more unrelated or spam my websites at the top of the results.

What searches are you seeing that with? I default to DDG and when I can't find something I'll try Google, but usually struggle there too. Google also has ads (for people without ad block...) so "unrelated spam at the top" is baked in.

Re: Google is getting a lot worse because of the Reddit blackouts

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Post by mdekkers »

paulddraper wrote: post #22
acters wrote: post #2

This is the biggest benefit reddit provided to the user base. Google search has been lackluster and appending the word reddit allowed me to see plenty of good anecdotal and informative focused discussions without fluffing up the content for SEO.

I find myself doing that. Reddit GitHub Stackoverflow Even Hacker News Quality goes way way up depending on topic. I kinda wish Google would apply some more personalized ML to my searches

Have a look at kagi

Re: Google is getting a lot worse because of the Reddit blackouts

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Post by gumballindie »

It’s not google thats getting worse, it’s the overall internet.

I expect open source will follow suit in either removing projects or sealing them off.

Similarly, companies will limit access to ensure monetisation.

No one wants their work stolen to train ais and then monetised for not even a mention in exchange.

The dead internet is even more likely to happen.

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