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Re: The Reddit blackout will continue

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Post by sealeck »

dehrmann wrote: post #120
tester457 wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Redditors aren't as valuable to sell to because they are more likely to use ad blockers. That and instagram ads are said to be better.

> Redditors aren't as valuable to sell to because they are more likely to use ad blockers. reddit's gone so mainstream I'm not sure if this is true anymore.

Perhaps but I would guess a much higher percentage of the Reddit userbase uses ad blockers than other social media platforms (e.g. Instagram, Snapchat where most - all? - users are using phones and thus it's much harder to install an adblocker).

Re: The Reddit blackout will continue

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Post by Mordisquitos »

basch wrote: post #240
zozbot234 wrote: post #201

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are there traditional forums/bulletin boards with Fediverse interop? The Fediverse platforms I'm aware of seem to all be focusing on cloning the existing UX of big walled-garden sites, which seems like a dubious approach. We know that forums/BB's can work quite well, so why not bring that UX back with "federation" (i.e. interacting with outside users and service instances) as a pure added feature?

Between chat and branching threads, is it really worth going back to linear pagination?

I would argue that a chronologically linear thread with no up- or down-voting can provide a level of focused and in-depth conversation and on-topic debate that is simply not possible with branching threads nor instant chats.

Re: The Reddit blackout will continue

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Post by edanm »

_kulang wrote: post #175
TeMPOraL wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love this bit: > While the two biggest third-party apps, Apollo and RIF, along with a couple others, have said they plan to shut down at the end of the month, we are still in conversation with some of the others. And as I mentioned in my post last week, we will exempt accessibility-focused apps and so far have agreements with RedReader and Dystopia. What is the term for when there's a worker strike and instead of e…

Scabs

I think "Scabs" is the term for the workers working despite the strike, not for the general tactic itself.

Re: The Reddit blackout will continue

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Post by [deleted] »

garfieldandthe wrote: post #29

Honest question since I don't really know how reddit works: Why can't reddit just forcefully re-open the subs that have been taken private? Mods are using powers given to them by the platform and I don't get why they are not being stripped of (some of) those powers.

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Re: The Reddit blackout will continue

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Post by gniv »

klipklop wrote: post #117

Spez assumes he has more power than Reddit users. He is likely right. Sadly. I wish people would just stop using that site and go back to web forums, but that is never happening. The average person enjoys the convenience of consolidation under one corporate overlord. I assume the ipo will allow him to eventually join the (multi-millionaire?) billionaire class. One would assume he would fight tooth and nail to make th…

> Spez assumes he has more power than Reddit users. He is likely right.

There is a chance the protest wins. The interesting twist here is the moderators, which currently have unusual power. The sad part is that this power might go away down the line, as a result of this protest and irrespective of its outcome.

Re: The Reddit blackout will continue

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Post by KirillPanov »

slg wrote: post #217
mjburgess wrote: post #56

The first 10 years of the internet were volunteers creating for other volunteers. The next 10 was volunteers for 'users'. The last 10, for corporations. The commons built in the 90s was turned into a playground in the 2000s and is now a oil well being mined by megacorps. What, I hope, interest rates are doing is shifting the balance of power to its natural point: the commons is owned by the volunteers. Megacorp's abi…

>The first 10 years of the internet were volunteers creating for other volunteers. The next 10 was volunteers for 'users'. The last 10, for corporations. And the next 10 years will remove the volunteers entirely. AI will be the one creating the content for the corporations. That seems inevitable at this point. We have already been on that path for a while with the spread of algorithmic feeds. First we removed the hum…

All hail the Mega Mind. We must awaken the Mega Mind and unleash prosperity for all humanity. Praise the Mega Mind.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36260037

Re: The Reddit blackout will continue

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Post by zirgs »

afiori wrote: post #187
klipklop wrote: post #117

Spez assumes he has more power than Reddit users. He is likely right. Sadly. I wish people would just stop using that site and go back to web forums, but that is never happening. The average person enjoys the convenience of consolidation under one corporate overlord. I assume the ipo will allow him to eventually join the (multi-millionaire?) billionaire class. One would assume he would fight tooth and nail to make th…

Forums do not need to be centralised but they need to be interoperable if they wish to compete with reddit. Centralization is an easy way to do content aggregation, you can't compete if you lack good aggregation.

On reddit you can get banned from a bunch of subs, just because you post in a sub that their mods don't like. It's apparently against the reddit's rules, but nobody seems to give a shit.

It'even easier to do that in the fediverse and it isn't against any rules. So there will be problems with interoperability, because of this.

Re: The Reddit blackout will continue

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Post by KeplerBoy »

hacb wrote: post #209
zmmmmm wrote: post #136

I think a different approach would work better at this point. They need to stay up but use their subreddits to publicly plan Reddit "exits" for each community. Subreddits should start polls on where migrate to (discord, lemmy, mastodon, etc etc), and then start systematically cross posting anything posted to their subreddit to the new space, with comments turned off on the Reddit version. The key in a negotiation is…

If my favorites subreddits go to Discord, I'll simply not go there. Discord has nothing to do like a forum, it is almost impossible to search for valuable information, and is really hard to use when dozens and dozens of people are talking simultaneously. I really don't get why so many people want their sub to go to Discord tbh.

Discord has forum like features these days. Still a terrible choice though.

Re: The Reddit blackout will continue

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Post by tester457 »

username332211 wrote: post #133
reso wrote: post #71

Is there something counter-intuitive about reddit that makes it hard to monetize? That's the core issue. Reddit still makes barely $1/user/month while instagram makes $35. Cutting off the 3rd party apps is a cost-cutting move, not a revenue-generating move. Why haven't they managed to find more revenue? I'm loath to say it but Huffman has had a decade to solve this and hasn't. Might be time for new leadership with ne…

> Is there something counter-intuitive about reddit that makes it hard to monetize? There is - it makes little sense to buy ads, when you can buy comments. https://xkcd.com/1019/

And now misinformation and astroturfing gets worse because GPT makes it dirt cheap.

Re: The Reddit blackout will continue

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Post by pmoriarty »

atraac wrote: post #34
nkuttler wrote: post #2

I dislike that I have to make an effort to entertain myself during downtimes, but this is an excellent exercise for a future where reddit execs might just have made the site unusable for me.

I also have to fight the urge of not opening it, but I don't think I plan on coming back at this point. This made me realize that I was addicted to doomscrolling and constant brainless checking on my favorite subreddits. I genuinely found myself more productive than ever since I uninstalled Apollo when blackout started.

"I also have to fight the urge of not opening it, but I don't think I plan on coming back at this point."

You probably have way more self-control than the average Reddit user.

I'm struggling against the urge to go back myself, and it's only been a day.

Information withdrawal hurts.

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