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Google is getting a lot worse because of the Reddit blackouts

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Re: Google is getting a lot worse because of the Reddit blackouts

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Are reddit posts not archived or cached anywhere?

I've been using the cached version in the Google search results. It doesn't always work but I've had good luck with reddit during the blackout

I've been doing a bit of this as well. Unfortunately, it seems that Google hides the 'Cached' link on mobile devices (at least in Safari) unless you 'request' the desktop version of the search results page. I don't know why they do this; it's extremely obnoxious. But then again, this kind of obtuse nonsense is par for the course these days.

Re: Google is getting a lot worse because of the Reddit blackouts

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post #4

I don't do reddit much, so unless the results in google are inaccessible while the blackout is ongoing, this won't affect google's ability to serve the same results as it did last week.

Yes, the results are inaccessible during the blackout.

Ouch a couple of people didn't like my straightforward observation.

The thing is google is still working just as it was ... the fact the results are dead atm is beside the point.

A person visiting old bookmarks to reddits that are unavailable at the moment could say the same, their bookmarks aren't working. I wouldn't author an article about bookmarks not working as such ...

Re: Google is getting a lot worse because of the Reddit blackouts

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post #2

This is the biggest benefit reddit provided to the user base. Google search has been lackluster and appending the word reddit allowed me to see plenty of good anecdotal and informative focused discussions without fluffing up the content for SEO.

I actually started going directly to the Reddit app and finding the relevant subreddit and searching within it - hope Reddit realizes the gold mine it’s sitting on but I doubt it.

Re: Google is getting a lot worse because of the Reddit blackouts

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post #3
post #2

This is the biggest benefit reddit provided to the user base. Google search has been lackluster and appending the word reddit allowed me to see plenty of good anecdotal and informative focused discussions without fluffing up the content for SEO.

Plenty of paid content on the mattress subs and I'm sure many others

Yes but easier to navigate. It’s obviously the red queen hypothesis of a never ending game between marketers and users looking for unadulterated information.

Re: Google is getting a lot worse because of the Reddit blackouts

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Are reddit posts not archived or cached anywhere?

They were being archived by pushshift.io until Reddit cut off their API access. Pushshift's API stopped returning results around that time.

It looks like Reddit is going to let them resume, but with access restricted to Reddit moderators:

https://old.reddit.com/r/pushshift/comments/13w6j20/advancin...

Other sites, like archive.org and Google, scrape and archive Reddit pages, but coverage is spotty at best.

Re: Google is getting a lot worse because of the Reddit blackouts

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post #2

This is the biggest benefit reddit provided to the user base. Google search has been lackluster and appending the word reddit allowed me to see plenty of good anecdotal and informative focused discussions without fluffing up the content for SEO.

I actually started going directly to the Reddit app and finding the relevant subreddit and searching within it - hope Reddit realizes the gold mine it’s sitting on but I doubt it.

I've found reddit first party search to be pretty lack luster. More often than not, I'd have to fallback to Googling "site:reddit.com/r/subreddit-of-interest " and while better, that's about a 50/50 a lot of the time.

Reddit does this thing where it advertises other threads on the same page of whatever you're viewing. So sometimes the promoted content was the thing actually relevant to the search and not the current thread. And this would be fine except it's not static/deterministic. The promoted content usually changes between when it's indexed and when it's accessed at a later time - so the thing that made it relevant to the search often isn't there anymore. So you have to either view the cached paged if available, go back and try different results, or refine your search.

Re: Google is getting a lot worse because of the Reddit blackouts

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post #2

This is the biggest benefit reddit provided to the user base. Google search has been lackluster and appending the word reddit allowed me to see plenty of good anecdotal and informative focused discussions without fluffing up the content for SEO.

I used to think I might be the only one who does this and was beginning to wonder if I am overly reliant on reddit for my search results. Looks like I was not the only one.

Re: Google is getting a lot worse because of the Reddit blackouts

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Monopolization effects from social networks is so powerful. I really wish decentralization would take off again, but it's a vicious cycle.

Search incentives SEO hacking. SEO hacking causes searches engines to stick to weigh reputation scores more. Reputation scores favor large social media platforms that have strong moderation practices. Quora, reddit, and other platforms become more valuable than SEO hacked blog spam.

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