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Re: Reddit Doubles Down

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Post by nbacircleerk »

jjulius wrote: post #225
paxys wrote: post #214

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The same way moderators could go create their own version of reddit. Or you an I could just start a new basketball league. Or create a new internet if we are unhappy with the existing one. This line of reasoning goes nowhere.

Sure it does. If "casual users were not happy to find out that they would have nowhere to discuss the most important game of the season" (an assertion that is incredibly laughable) and were really that upset, there could've been an r/NBA2 in half a second - far easier than recreating Reddit itself or making their own league. And yet, nobody did that...

> And yet, nobody did that...

/r/nbacirclejerk, /r/basketball, /r/cfb, /r/heat and /r/denvernuggets hosted the game threads for last night game.

Honestly really digged the experience on the /r/nbacirclejerk game thread.

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Post by moralestapia »

whatsuphotdog wrote: post #40

I love that the CEO calls the users voicing their displeasure "noise". When those users voice opinions on other things, it's called content. When those users voice their opinions against reddit, it's noise. Hoffman continues to display a fundamental misunderstanding of what Reddit is. The very people that give your platform its value are revolting against you, and you think it's noise. What's your product? What do yo…

>Hoffman continues to display a fundamental misunderstanding of what Reddit is.

No, you and others' wishful thinking lead you to a fundamental misunderstanding of what Reddit and Hoffman are. This is just the standard "how to run a business" MBA crap at play. The website you think Reddit is doesn't exist; and that doesn't even matter, as for them it's just another black box that makes money.

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Post by marklyon »

CSMastermind wrote: post #64

> A number of Snoos have been working around the clock, adapting to infrastructure strains, engaging with communities, and responding to the myriad of issues related to this blackout I find a CEO referring to their employees as 'Snoos' to be offputting personally. I'm sure it's meant to be a fun and inclusive term but the guy is sending out a pretty serious email that ends in, "I am sorry to say this, but please be m…

One Snoo not working around the clock is /u/Cryfi the Snoo responsible for helping my subreddit land and manage AMAs. They were unceremoniously shown the door and none of the mods were notified.

https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/addressing_...

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Post by lokar »

smileysteve wrote: post #199
lokar wrote: post #154

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They have to be much less than 1%, I don’t t see how the math works. Views (and ad clicks) are what matter, not posts and comments. They only need the posts and comments to have something to stick an ad next to.

But the api doesn't deliver ads and the clients don't pay Reddit.

But they don’t cost much. Getting the activity scaled ad rev from these users won’t make them profitable.

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Post by Riffz »

a2tech wrote: post #132

All they had to do was make API access require Premium. $4/month and all the pieces were laying there. Thats twice as much monthly profit as their current super inflated API pricing would bring them for the same users. Reddit made themselves a real mess here and it's all SO stupid.

No shit hey. Fucking rocket appliances apparently. Charge me $4 for premium and give devs 3 months to implement the changes or something. It feels so blindingly simple that this who mess is mind numbingly stupid.

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Post by mattmcknight »

ibero wrote: post #198
thr_low_latency wrote: post #75

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Moderators _seriously_ underestimate how hated they are. At this point I'd rather the admins just take back the subs and let the voting system sort it out. Like how it did for the first 10 years of the site's life.

you or any other user could create your own subreddit. it’s not like reddit can’t discuss nba games. there clearly is a gulf between people who actively wish to make it so and those who consume the byproduct of their effort.

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Post by JCharante »

AmericanOP wrote: post #141
extr wrote: post #38

I don't really understand why it had to be this way. It's so easy to think of other ways this could have been handled. Even just announcing the same change with 6 months of lead time rather than 1 month would have gone over better. Or boil the frog and gradually introduce API restrictions. It's as if the CEO is purposefully being as belligerent as possible to rile people up.

A little crazy to me that Discord can create an attractive subscription tier while Reddit flounders. Well, maybe not so surprising with their product team.

Different products. Discord is about socializing. Reddit is an anti social social network. Only weirdos would pay to dress up their Snoovatar.

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Post by ta8645 »

bshipp wrote: post #87
ta8645 wrote: post #34

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The theory being that it will revert to more manual, hands on moderation, rather than automated and more sweeping (eg. instantly banning people for simply posting in an unrelated but disfavored sub).

I have only moderated relatively small subreddits with hundreds of users and even that was an exhausting slog that was only made feasible with third party subreddit tools. if you think it's difficult to maintain moderator consistency now, just wait until subreddits are forced to bring on hundreds of moderators to handle the workload. Reddit admin and users have no idea how much free labour they are benefitting from a…

That makes sense.

Although, it goes against the dismissive post to which I was replying, that said Reddit will provide all the missing functionality without a problem.

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Post by tetris11 »

jprete wrote: post #226
Terr_ wrote: post #81

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> It's so easy to think of other ways this could have been handled. Well, assuming Reddit executives were telling the truth about their goals/needs, which I don't think they are. They claim the purpose was some kind of emergency band-aid to stop the service from hemorrhaging cash from evil large-scale data-sucking AI developers without compensation... But in that case, they could have simply introduced it as a fresh…

I don't think Reddit was telling the truth either. But AI developers/companies seem to almost universally believe they have fair-use rights to train their models on any data they can get their hands on, and a sufficiently expensive API at least forces them to do engineering work to get all the data. So at the time I believed Reddit's reasoning.

Pushshift was the best unofficial reddit API for years, and did so without any funding problems

Re: Reddit Doubles Down

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Post by nbacircleerk »

a2tech wrote: post #132

All they had to do was make API access require Premium. $4/month and all the pieces were laying there. Thats twice as much monthly profit as their current super inflated API pricing would bring them for the same users. Reddit made themselves a real mess here and it's all SO stupid.

Somehow Relay's developer figured a way to make his app viable with "$3 (or less) "

https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/12/23758616/reddit-app-survi...

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