I wonder how long until Google delists them in search results.
Reddit would finally have search that works!
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#172I hope this unleashes a wave of tools that allow you to exfiltrate content from these systems and put them in longer lasting storage that can be searched even when the original goes down. Then we can just let all these services die every few years.
Tools don't seem very interesting. They already exist. I want a mirrored copy so I can find the information I want that was posted on reddit without having to visit reddit.
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#173> A number of Snoos have been working around the clock, adapting to infrastructure strains, engaging with communities, and responding to the myriad of issues related to this blackout I find a CEO referring to their employees as 'Snoos' to be offputting personally. I'm sure it's meant to be a fun and inclusive term but the guy is sending out a pretty serious email that ends in, "I am sorry to say this, but please be m…
Lots of tech companies have silly names for their employees, I think it might have originated with “Googlers” but some companies (like Reddit) went a little further. (“Snoo” is also the name of the little Reddit alien mascot.)
I recently joined LegalZoom, where the demonym is apparently "Zoomers". Yeah, I won't be using that one :P
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#174Imo the boycott isn't going far enough. The communities affected by this should just pool resources and either migrate to an existing clone or build one. If it sticks to only hosting text, and handles images/videos via external links hosting costs would be very manageable. There's no reason something like Reddit needs to be privately owned, or commercial at all.
As a user I deleted my entire comment history. About the best I could think of to do.
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#175Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you believe reddit’s API pricing is reasonable?
Yes, it's very reasonable, especially when you consider how many hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not more, these third-party client apps like Apollo have been raking in each year, for so many years. It's only fair that Reddit prices their API to get the lion's share of that revenue, regardless of whatever sob stories these wealthy app developers are trying to manipulate the angry mob with.
Dang, TurfGPT has gotten really good!
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#176All they had to do was make API access require Premium. $4/month and all the pieces were laying there. Thats twice as much monthly profit as their current super inflated API pricing would bring them for the same users. Reddit made themselves a real mess here and it's all SO stupid.
I'd pay that to not have to use their awful mobile app or new.reddit
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#177I don't really understand why it had to be this way. It's so easy to think of other ways this could have been handled. Even just announcing the same change with 6 months of lead time rather than 1 month would have gone over better. Or boil the frog and gradually introduce API restrictions. It's as if the CEO is purposefully being as belligerent as possible to rile people up.
You go the twitter way.
Just cap all existing API keys to roughly the number of users they currently have.
Everyone who is currently using RIF or Apollo or $whatever can continue to use it. They can't add any new users.
Super simple, nobody is losing anything, nobody is having anything taken away. All new users would be fed into the app. Eventually the 3rd party apps would have died off. It would have been a slow, painful and QUIET death.
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#178I don't really understand why it had to be this way. It's so easy to think of other ways this could have been handled. Even just announcing the same change with 6 months of lead time rather than 1 month would have gone over better. Or boil the frog and gradually introduce API restrictions. It's as if the CEO is purposefully being as belligerent as possible to rile people up.
Or just invest in building mobile apps that people love to use more than the alternatives.
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#179I hope this unleashes a wave of tools that allow you to exfiltrate content from these systems and put them in longer lasting storage that can be searched even when the original goes down. Then we can just let all these services die every few years.
Tools don't seem very interesting. They already exist. I want a mirrored copy so I can find the information I want that was posted on reddit without having to visit reddit.
So, in other words, you want "longer lasting storage that can be searched even when the original goes down"? What's the difference between that and what you are imagining?
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#180Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you believe reddit’s API pricing is reasonable?
Yes, it's very reasonable, especially when you consider how many hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not more, these third-party client apps like Apollo have been raking in each year, for so many years. It's only fair that Reddit prices their API to get the lion's share of that revenue, regardless of whatever sob stories these wealthy app developers are trying to manipulate the angry mob with.
Dear god, bitter much? Who cares how much they are making? Apollo was $13/year (years ago it was $9/year). That absurdly low for the value Apollo provided. It provided a living for ~1-1.5+ developers/others (backend dev has a day job IIRC). They had server costs and various other costs (backend, icon art work, etc). If we were talking about a manipulative/scummy app it would be different but Apollo was top of the line. One of the best/better apps I’ve used on iOS.
If anyone deserved to be “wealthy” then it was this dev for the time and effort he put into the app. Even so, can you not see how it’s untenable to pay for the API even he wanted to? At rough estimates he was making $650,00 a year (~50K yearly subs IIRC). That’s 552,500 after apple’s tax, and then he has to pay the backend developer, the servers, icon designers, himself and the business has other costs/expenses. Yes, he is probably doing quite well for himself but this is a case where I really don’t see a problem with that. At $20M a year he would have to jack up his prices and drop the free tier (or jack up prices further) and a lot of those people are only halfway through their subscription at best, how does he afford them? Remember Reddit told him this year that they had no plans to change the API this year.
You want to make it out as if he is wealthy beyond compare and rallying a mob against poor, old, non-profitable reddit. Reddit chooses to be non-profitable. Their headcount is high, they’ve made increasingly unpopular/anti-community changes, and they refuse to provide decent tools to moderators after years of promising to and failing to deliver. Reddit primed the pump then took away one of few places where reddit can still shine, 3rd party apps, reddit did this to themselves. They have ignored every single off-ramp afforded to them after making this bad decision and have now been caught lying multiple times. Reddit has but to look in the mirror to know who to blame for this.