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Re: Reddit Doubles Down

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Post by AtlasBarfed »

monero-xmr wrote: post #6

I’m just annoyed the local community group I primarily use Reddit for is dark. I don’t see why this helps anyone. Reddit is a private company, go someplace else. I think 99% of users don’t care, or don’t care enough to do anything substantial. Just move on.

Reddit is a private company that runs on the donated labor of thousands of people doing moderation and policing.

99% of users rely on that labor. And it isn't a given some other forums will rise to the same level.

This dumb trope of "economics will ensure an equivalent product will appear" is a laissez faire fantasy.

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Post by monkpit »

It seems to me like they could pass this cost to users instead of developers and just have API access an option on some subscription tier. Then allow third party apps to auth with users credentials. And then everyone would be happy? Maybe.

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Post by graeme »

candiddevmike wrote: post #4

I wonder how long until Google delists them in search results.

Google should buy Reddit instead. Not that different from owning Youtube. And they'd ensure their search results remain full of good, text based content.

Lot of people have complained that Google search is worse today without Reddit. If Reddit management kills the communities which produce the text posts it could have a real negative impact on Google.

Meanwhile Google's text and video ad network could probably monetize Reddit way better than Reddit can.

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Post by Conscat »

monero-xmr wrote: post #6

I’m just annoyed the local community group I primarily use Reddit for is dark. I don’t see why this helps anyone. Reddit is a private company, go someplace else. I think 99% of users don’t care, or don’t care enough to do anything substantial. Just move on.

At a certain point, some "private company" must be so important that it becomes an essential service. Maybe Reddit isn't at that point yet, but that you're frustrated it's gone suggests that it is important. If an essential service is privatized, then its owners have a huge amount of leverage over how we live our lives and how we engage with technology. For instance, Apple tries to prohibit apps not on the App Store from being used by iPhone owners, who constitute 20% of smartphone users world-wide. That's 50% for specifically the USA.

What if that number was 100%? What if all decent GPS programs only worked on iOS? Could we simply stop using iPhones? At that point it might be too late to protest. Imo, the time to protest is before a company has this reach.

Maybe Reddit isn't that big of a deal. They don't own 100% of all Internet discourse. But I think Reddit matters a good deal, since C++ language evolution is influenced significantly by Reddit conversations (yes, actually). But either way, the argument that Reddit should have total leeway doesn't generalize.

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Post by TX81Z »

over_bridge wrote: post #11
monero-xmr wrote: post #6

I’m just annoyed the local community group I primarily use Reddit for is dark. I don’t see why this helps anyone. Reddit is a private company, go someplace else. I think 99% of users don’t care, or don’t care enough to do anything substantial. Just move on.

This point has been discussed to death already. Reddit is extremely reliant on a small percentage of users who moderate and post content. Those are the ones being impacted and complaining the loudest. The majority of users just passively absorb the work of the few.

I really wonder how most people even conceive as what goes into community moderation?

Personally I’ve always thought anybody who would do the amount of free labor Reddit mods do is a stone cold fool - precisely because it is so time consuming and the monetary value is all captured by EvilCorp.

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Post by rossdavidh »

graeme wrote: post #25
candiddevmike wrote: post #4

I wonder how long until Google delists them in search results.

Google should buy Reddit instead. Not that different from owning Youtube. And they'd ensure their search results remain full of good, text based content. Lot of people have complained that Google search is worse today without Reddit. If Reddit management kills the communities which produce the text posts it could have a real negative impact on Google. Meanwhile Google's text and video ad network could probably moneti…

All true, but I find it unlikely that they would be allowed to buy it. Even if the US approved (by no means certain), the EU probably would not.

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Post by sieabahlpark »

Conscat wrote: post #26
monero-xmr wrote: post #6

I’m just annoyed the local community group I primarily use Reddit for is dark. I don’t see why this helps anyone. Reddit is a private company, go someplace else. I think 99% of users don’t care, or don’t care enough to do anything substantial. Just move on.

At a certain point, some "private company" must be so important that it becomes an essential service. Maybe Reddit isn't at that point yet, but that you're frustrated it's gone suggests that it is important. If an essential service is privatized, then its owners have a huge amount of leverage over how we live our lives and how we engage with technology. For instance, Apple tries to prohibit apps not on the App Store…

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