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Sources Tell Me Some Messed Up Stuff Is Happening in Commercial Real Estate

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Re: Sources Tell Me Some Messed Up Stuff Is Happening in Commercial Real Estate

#11

I don't know that I agree with the author's assessment that this is "disgusting"; it just seems like a shift in wealth from bankers to commercial real estate companies, and I am not particularly sympathetic to either. Maybe there is another angle here.

Maybe you missed the part about a bail out. That's not a transfer of wealth from bankers to commercial real estate companies, it's a transfer of wealth from the tax payers to the real estate companies.

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#12

I don't know that I agree with the author's assessment that this is "disgusting"; it just seems like a shift in wealth from bankers to commercial real estate companies, and I am not particularly sympathetic to either. Maybe there is another angle here.

Ye. Just sounds like a deal where the bank takes the risk. I guess the interest rate was higher from the get go due to this.

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#14
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Seems plausible. Vacancy rates of commercial property is ~~down~~ up significantly in major cities (SF, ATX, NYC, SEA, ...). What I want to know is: is it possible to find out how many of these commercial loans contain a "non-recourse" clause?

> Vacancy rates of commercial property is down significantly in major cities (SF, ATX, NYC, SEA, ...).

You mean occupancy rate right?

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#15

I don't know that I agree with the author's assessment that this is "disgusting"; it just seems like a shift in wealth from bankers to commercial real estate companies, and I am not particularly sympathetic to either. Maybe there is another angle here.

Did you read the article carefully?

The disgusting part is where taxpayers make the banks whole for their commercial real estate losses! It is a multi-billion taxpayer bailout of private corporations.

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#17

I don't know that I agree with the author's assessment that this is "disgusting"; it just seems like a shift in wealth from bankers to commercial real estate companies, and I am not particularly sympathetic to either. Maybe there is another angle here.

…but the big banks don't actually lose wealth, given their blank check from the government.

Losses cause crunches elsewhere, via the taxing/printing/managed-decay policies which buy the banks an unlimited number of get-out-of-bad-decisions-free options.

Who finally pays is left as an exercise for the reader, both figuratively & literally.

Re: Sources Tell Me Some Messed Up Stuff Is Happening in Commercial Real Estate

#18

I don't know that I agree with the author's assessment that this is "disgusting"; it just seems like a shift in wealth from bankers to commercial real estate companies, and I am not particularly sympathetic to either. Maybe there is another angle here.

The author mentioned how the US government will have no choice but to bail out the banks. That’s the part they considered disgusting.

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#19

I don't know that I agree with the author's assessment that this is "disgusting"; it just seems like a shift in wealth from bankers to commercial real estate companies, and I am not particularly sympathetic to either. Maybe there is another angle here.

Do you really think bankers are lending their own money here? They’re lending yours and mine
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