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Reddit CEO tells employees that subreddit blackout ‘will pass’

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Re: Reddit CEO tells employees that subreddit blackout ‘will pass’

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Post by nologic01 »

QuarterRoy wrote: post #5

I think he went about this completely in the wrong way and comes off as arrogant but on this I agree. Many subs that didn’t go dark still seem to have plenty of participants and people need their digital crack. I don’t see this being a digg moment for Reddit.

There is sudden death and there is death by a thousand cuts.

The current social media scene is dead. But its going to be messy because of the network effects, the poisson adtech models etc.

I'd be really surprised if the known platforms can somehow reinvent themselves. They are hostage to the same mechanics that prevents others to do something better.

Re: Reddit CEO tells employees that subreddit blackout ‘will pass’

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Post by [deleted] »

TheFreim wrote: post #9

If the blackout is only for two days then they're right, but if they continue indefinitely it could force a change (reddit is currently unusable since all but one sub I enjoy is gone, if it was gone indefinitely then reddit would be indefinitely out of the picture for me).

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Re: Reddit CEO tells employees that subreddit blackout ‘will pass’

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Post by bamfly »

minimaxir wrote: post #2

Before the blackout, many subreddits hinted at extending the blackout indefinitely if Reddit is being adversarial. This seems adversarial.

I wonder how many of the people coordinating the blackout sent the "challenge accepted" meme to one another, on reading this quote. It was sure the first thing that popped into my head, on reading it.

Re: Reddit CEO tells employees that subreddit blackout ‘will pass’

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Post by activiation »

dijit wrote: post #31
activiation wrote: post #3

> I am sorry to say this, but please be mindful of wearing Reddit gear in public. Some folks are really upset, and we don’t want you to be the object of their frustrations. LoL

I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss, external popularity can paint a target on your back for 0.000x% of people (which, of course is infinitesimal but non-zero). I myself have been harrassed for wearing local game studio garb because our games are "violent" and we have "problems with violence" in the city. The game was a vampire fantasy battle royale, so not exactly a realistic depiction of gun crime- people who feel vi…

True, but that statement might speak to his current state of mind.

Re: Reddit CEO tells employees that subreddit blackout ‘will pass’

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Post by brutal_chaos_ »

almost_usual wrote: post #34
QuarterRoy wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

His job is to double down on getting Reddit public with a successful IPO. Investors want their $ back out of Reddit

With all the negative publicity this IPO is DOA. Not unless they push it out year(s) and do PR. Damage is already done.

doubtful. if the blackout doesn't stay, the issue will be forgotten about. The majority of users won't see a difference for awhile, probably until a bit after Reddit goes public and makes the API switch. and by then investors will have pulled money out, moderators won't be able to moderate, and Reddit will die slowly (or quickly, depending on spam volume after the switch).

Re: Reddit CEO tells employees that subreddit blackout ‘will pass’

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Post by TheFreim »

thegreatdukd wrote: post #84
adrr wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They’ll just replace the mods if the popular subreddits go longer than 2 days.

Cheering for them to do that for r/nba already. Mods blacked out the sub on the last day of the NBA finals. Zero common sense.

This is the entire point of the blackout, make reddit unusable to demonstrate that damage to reddit can be done if they don't change their plans.

Re: Reddit CEO tells employees that subreddit blackout ‘will pass’

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Post by Rebelgecko »

justrealist wrote: post #76
mr_sturd wrote: post #11

I do hope a good chunk of mods extend the blackouts indefinitely.

Reddit will simply replace the mods if this becomes more than an annoyance.

For heavily moderated communities (eg r/AskHistorians or even dang here on HN), I think it's a mistake to treat mods as fungible. For better or worse, moderation sets the tone and timbre of the community.

Re: Reddit CEO tells employees that subreddit blackout ‘will pass’

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Post by BoorishBears »

Ataraxic wrote: post #55
BoorishBears wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Framing this as a battle between the mods and reddit admins isn't correct. Many of the subs I subscribe to have asked for user engagement on whether or not to join the blackout and they're following what their participants requested. After all, the most vocal are by the users of the 3P apps and they vastly outnumber the mods.

You just repeated my point.

It's a battle between Reddit and rich app developers. It had almost nothing to do with the mod tools comparatively.

The 3rd party apps aren't banned, they're just going from near infinity margins to still-very-good margins. But when you've spent years making millions for little to no cost, it's much easier to throw in the towel and then paint the guys who you built your moat on as the villains.

Re: Reddit CEO tells employees that subreddit blackout ‘will pass’

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Post by ugjka »

MisterBastahrd wrote: post #100
ugjka wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem isn't that no one can create a Reddit clone, the problem is that no one can scale like Reddit and do it at continuous loss just to be dominant

The problem with reddit clones is that every single freaking one I've seen featured on HN over the past few days has absolutely no idea of what it takes to run a proper social media platform. We abandoned tagging-as-categories two generations back. Active moderators are always better than hivemind moderation. They're so hellbent on trying to find a use case for monetizing their halfassed "build reddit in 24 hours" cl…

If you tasked a team to build a reddit clone and nothing else the only problem would be scaling and paying an aws bill (for decades at loss)

Re: Reddit CEO tells employees that subreddit blackout ‘will pass’

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Post by cpeterso »

mrits wrote: post #54
mr_00ff00 wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The irony of organizing a blackout to teach Reddit a lesson while organizing it on a subreddit.

It isn't irony at all. Reddit gets almost zero revenue from the sub organizing it. People aren't protesting Reddit in general, but a policy of reddit.

The irony is that there is no viable alternative platform for the mods to organize on, demonstrating that Reddit has the market position to set high prices if they want to.
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