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Re: BBEdit: Where Respect Is Due

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post #25

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According to Script Debugger, hardly the massive powerhouse that may end humanity like GPT-4, it's the "bounds" property of a window, specifically the 3rd element.

In pixels, yes, but that's not trivial to convert to character width...

Re: BBEdit: Where Respect Is Due

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BareBones has had several good programs to go along with BBEdit. Yojimbo is a kind of catch-all database where you can cram stuff and organize it. Kind of like a Pinterest for all kinds of things, not just images. With the family pack, everybody can have access to the same lump-o-stuff. Way back in the day, they had Mailsmith, which was, more or less, a POP mail client with BBEdit crammed in. (This was back when pret…

I like Yojimbo on Mac, but for the life of me I can't figure out why their iPad app is read only still. I understood it when it first came out, but they added all kinds of features on the Mac version, such as iCloud sync, but the iPad app still only syncs via local network only, and it can't edit anything, and doesn't take advantage of things like web views. Weirdly behind feature set still

If you're looking for something like Yojimbo with near feature parity on macOS and iPadOS, take a look at DEVONThink Pro. I use it with a ScanSnap and ExactScan as my digital filing cabinet.

Re: BBEdit: Where Respect Is Due

#153
post #51

> We've always had the utmost respect for the user. Every internal decision about look and function answers the auestions "What does the customer need?" and "How can we help them be more productive?" (Not "How can we give them what they're asking for?" because that isn't the right question to answer.) That’s hard to do and I would guess that their ability to distinguish between what users ask for and what they need i…

> That’s hard to do and I would guess that their ability to distinguish between what users ask for and what they need is a big part of the software’s longevity. True, but it's also necessary. As Henry Ford (supposedly) famously said "If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses."

That's usually the (supposed) quote that is brought up when somebody questions this "don't give the user what they want, figure out what they need" notion.

And it sounds great, and makes you laugh the first time you hear it (but yawn the next 9,999 times...)

But think it through: how many customers really would have actually said that?

Wow, you guessed correctly! It was indeed, four guys, out of all the customers Ford had. If he had asked them, which he said he didn't.

But how many of those four would have really said that if they didn't happen to be drunk?

Wow, correct again! Indeed, zero.

So in fact this whole pithy little quote -- regardless of whether he said it or not -- is just shorthand for HAW HAW USERS DUM AS SHIT BRO LMAO

Re: BBEdit: Where Respect Is Due

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Ohh, BBEdit. I've long since moved on from the Mac platform, but I still have really fond memories of it and wish more text editors could match it (SublimeText is pretty good too). I remember when BBEdit came out. It was revolutionary at the time. It was a fun challenge to find "large" files to test it on, and for a while nobody was sure how it did the magic it did. It shipped with a really clean UI and it gave me my…

My memory of CodeWarrior is a bit different. It didn't seem like a pig, but BBEdit just worked better for editing files. BBEdit had better search/replace, shortcuts for navigating text, everything was just better in BBEdit.

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Re: BBEdit: Where Respect Is Due

#155
post #8

BBEdit was my first text editor ~15 years ago! Back when I was really obsessive over the small stuff because I wanted to be like the cool kids. I then got into Text Wrangler, vim, emacs, nvim, etc. over the years. I was really into customizing my environment. Now I just use IntelliJ and VSCode. Don't really have to think about it, plugin system has grown enormously, and I rarely need to spend time futzing with my con…

I use vim and don't futz around with my config. I feel like this is a perpetual myth that vim or emacs requires endless tinkering. I maybe touch it once a year, and I still have: - LSP support - code actions, hover, gotos, linting. - Fuzzy finding with previews (with syntax highlighting thanks to bat) - Integrated Git - Integrated Terminal - Integrated Debugger It's a real shame that IntelliJ and VSCode users scare b…

In VS Code I have an extension that allows me to highlight code and get immediate edits/advice from GPT-4. What's the VIM analogue there?

Re: BBEdit: Where Respect Is Due

#156
post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like Yojimbo on Mac, but for the life of me I can't figure out why their iPad app is read only still. I understood it when it first came out, but they added all kinds of features on the Mac version, such as iCloud sync, but the iPad app still only syncs via local network only, and it can't edit anything, and doesn't take advantage of things like web views. Weirdly behind feature set still

If you're looking for something like Yojimbo with near feature parity on macOS and iPadOS, take a look at DEVONThink Pro. I use it with a ScanSnap and ExactScan as my digital filing cabinet.

That's where I'm at, too.

Scanning a doc into DT and then immediately shredding the paper is one of life's little pleasures.

Re: BBEdit: Where Respect Is Due

#157
post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use vim and don't futz around with my config. I feel like this is a perpetual myth that vim or emacs requires endless tinkering. I maybe touch it once a year, and I still have: - LSP support - code actions, hover, gotos, linting. - Fuzzy finding with previews (with syntax highlighting thanks to bat) - Integrated Git - Integrated Terminal - Integrated Debugger It's a real shame that IntelliJ and VSCode users scare b…

In VS Code I have an extension that allows me to highlight code and get immediate edits/advice from GPT-4. What's the VIM analogue there?

Just doing a basic google search shows me at least 4 plugins that interface with chat GPT. I personally don't use them because my workplace doesn't allow feeding our code to another companies backend.

Re: BBEdit: Where Respect Is Due

#158
post #120

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> BBEdit is like an insurance policy just in case… I'm curious to understand how proprietary software can act as an insurance policy against open source software. I can understand how the reverse would be true.

It think OP means insurance in that they know how to use it well and can "fall back" to it if their current choice fails to meet their needs. I do not think they meant insurance as in failsafe/archival purposes/the company shutting down.

> It think OP means insurance in that they know how to use it well and can "fall back" to it if their current choice fails to meet their needs.

This is exactly what I meant.

Re: BBEdit: Where Respect Is Due

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BareBones has had several good programs to go along with BBEdit. Yojimbo is a kind of catch-all database where you can cram stuff and organize it. Kind of like a Pinterest for all kinds of things, not just images. With the family pack, everybody can have access to the same lump-o-stuff. Way back in the day, they had Mailsmith, which was, more or less, a POP mail client with BBEdit crammed in. (This was back when pret…

> in today's world where a lot of email doesn't come multipart MIME, just HTML, it would be less useful

I find that ignoring mail which lacks a text/plain part makes for a pretty decent spam filter.

Re: BBEdit: Where Respect Is Due

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post #25

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I'm somehat worried about the incidental harm caused by people relying on GPT's word chain hallucinations as facts for something critical. Most laypersons don't understand that GPT is not a factual search engine. I'm increasingly seeing people who should know better also forget this now and then.

It is also important to note that GPT is _not_ useless as a search engine.
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