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Re: BBEdit: Where Respect Is Due

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Post by selcuka »

criddell wrote: post #12

> We've always had the utmost respect for the user. Every internal decision about look and function answers the auestions "What does the customer need?" and "How can we help them be more productive?" (Not "How can we give them what they're asking for?" because that isn't the right question to answer.) That’s hard to do and I would guess that their ability to distinguish between what users ask for and what they need i…

> That’s hard to do and I would guess that their ability to distinguish between what users ask for and what they need is a big part of the software’s longevity.

True, but it's also necessary. As Henry Ford (supposedly) famously said "If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses."

Re: BBEdit: Where Respect Is Due

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Post by abhibeckert »

e28eta wrote: post #27

Lots of love for BBEdit. I appreciate it as a long-lived, native Mac text editor. It hasn’t stagnated, instead incrementally improving for decades. Discovering the command line tools was a very good day for me. I really like the built-in (two way) diff, and it’s my $EDITOR of choice on mac.

I also love BBEdit, and while it hasn't stagnated it also hasn't kept up either.

I've moved on to VSCode which has so many more features than BBEdit - it's not even close.

Re: BBEdit: Where Respect Is Due

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Post by tnamorfd »

I've been a developer for three decades and have done a few things that I'd like to think are worthy of some merit - but my credit as one of the 'unindicted co-conspirators' in BBEdit is absolutely one of the things I'm most proud of!

Re: BBEdit: Where Respect Is Due

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Post by vlowther »

BBEdit is my weapon of choice for reading massive log dumps and database dumps for support at $DAYJOB. It does not seem to ever choke no matter how many hundreds of megabytes if text I need to plow through.

Re: BBEdit: Where Respect Is Due

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Post by 404mm »

vlowther wrote: post #55

BBEdit is my weapon of choice for reading massive log dumps and database dumps for support at $DAYJOB. It does not seem to ever choke no matter how many hundreds of megabytes if text I need to plow through.

That and random snippets of text that live as unsaved documents for days to months.

BBEdit is a big misfit for me and how I use editors. It’s great at transforming text and zillion of other features but I get my work done in VSCode or PyCharm. My true preference was Atom. RIP

Even with this all, I still install BBEdit on every device I can.

Re: BBEdit: Where Respect Is Due

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Post by eviks »

> FTA: "We’ve always had the utmost respect for the user. Every internal decision about look and function answers the questions 'What does the customer need?' and 'How can we help them be more productive?' (Not 'How can we give them what they’re asking for?' because that isn’t the right question to answer.)"

That's not utmost respect, but condescension when you think you always know /can figure out better than the user

Re: BBEdit: Where Respect Is Due

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Post by chazeon »

I recently bout BBedit on their 30th birthday event.

BBEdit / TextMate has the Mac feel that I enjoy editing long-form text in (recently, a lot of latex manuscripts); meanwhile, vscode is where I write code. I don't know what contributes to this difference exactly, but they occupy a different part of the market as of now.

Re: BBEdit: Where Respect Is Due

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Post by labster »

eviks wrote: post #57

> FTA: "We’ve always had the utmost respect for the user. Every internal decision about look and function answers the questions 'What does the customer need?' and 'How can we help them be more productive?' (Not 'How can we give them what they’re asking for?' because that isn’t the right question to answer.)" That's not utmost respect, but condescension when you think you always know /can figure out better than the us…

No that’s just reality. If you give the user exactly what they asked for, you shipped a bad product.
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