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Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Post by jjcm »

diarized wrote: post #199

I recently found that more sites has Stripe code on pages that actually don't require payment. First it was a calendar site to schedule meetings, now this. As many of you, I have a bunch of blockers installed in my web browser and I strip off the Strip code when I am opening non.io 'register' page. Unfortunately, it prevents me from registering. I believe the code there is to build my profile and start using metrics/…

Just for clarification, the site is a SPA. There’s no difference in the frontend package between the registration page or viewing a post.

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Post by z3t4 »

ric2b wrote: post #402
kokanee wrote: post #260

Earlier quoted context omitted.

An idea I mull over occasionally: what if you could spend your karma points to boost any given post? This would ultimately be another form of paid advertising, except that the currency used would be earned by contributing to the community. Then, allow people to sell their karma points for fiat currency. Companies would buy karma points directly from users in order to promote their self-promotional posts, but those po…

This has been tried in the cryptocurrency space, people start faking accounts to upvote their content and make money. So basically what already happens with reddit/twitter/etc but amplified because you give them a direct financial incentive to upvote low effort crap.

I think it can be solved by personalizing the top page(s), so you mostly see the kind of stuff you upvote. If there are a few people up-voting crap you wont see it, but they will see all of it.

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Post by all2 »

jjcm wrote: post #415
TheCaptain4815 wrote: post #93

"A place for all content types - No matter what you make, Nonio is equipped to support it. With no advertisers, you aren’t at risk of having your content demonetized." How far are you willing to go to defend this? There's been lots of technical talk in this thread so far, but I'm curious on this portion. So far I'm LOVING the UI. I actually think you should drop the payment part ASAP and just push for more users in t…

Obviously I can’t defend “all content types” to the level that say, the darkweb can. I’ll still abide by the law. That said, I don’t have the pressure of ad networks to filter out content. I still have pressures however. Using Stripe and credit cards for payment processing means I have to ensure the sites primary purpose isn’t adult content, as if that content dominates its very likely Stripe will choose to no longer…

Are you going to Gab levels of defense? Their stance has been "if it is legal speech in the US, then it is allowed on the platform" is one that grates many people the wrong way. It allows for blatant racism, science denial, questioning of hallowed institutions, holocaust denial, and so on.

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Post by throwaway689236 »

jjcm wrote: post #197
lanza wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ditto. I hate this idea. We all know the type of content that revenue drives: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE3j_RHkqJc . I want a site that rewards quality, not view counts.

> I want a site that rewards quality, not view counts. That's what the objective of the site is. Viewing doesn't reward anything (whereas views do reward in the video you just linked). My hope as well is that for nonio, knowing you're contributing a share of your monthly pool will make people more conscientious about what they upvote, thus improving quality.

As an option, to rank items, you can use the amount of money that the item has earned instead of just the number of upvotes. You can even replace upvotes number in the UI as well. This way frequent meme-upvoters will have less sway over more picky users. It'd be easier to register astroturfing accounts and to promote something to the top, though.

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Post by kyle-rb »

Pretty cool! I would consider changing your URL patterns though. It's not ideal to change them after launch, but it will be harder to change them a year from now if/when you run into issues.

1. Using '#' in URLs is not great.

  - When requesting a page, the browser doesn't include anything after the hash, which means:
  - Tag pages rely solely on client-side routing — they'll never work with JS disabled. You might not support no-JS right now, but if you ever want to allow for it in the future, it's incompatible with hash-based routing.
  - SEO will probably be impacted; not sure how well crawlers deal with hash-based routing.
  - If someone links to non.io/#dog on social media, I think the opengraph preview will also ignore the hash.
If you want client-side routing, you should use a library or the JS history API[0]. That way you can use normal URLs and potentially support server-side rendering to allow for no-JS clients.

2. Putting user-generated URLs at the root of your site could be bad.

  - Keep that namespace for yourself: what if you want to make a page at non.io/support but someone already named their post 'support'?
  - Some stuff needs to be at the root (currently non.io/robots.txt 404s and seems to be trying to render a post).
  - There are other standards that look for specific URLs, or non-standards: e.g. BlueSky was authenticating domain names in a dumb way [1]
To be fair, Twitter does put usernames at the root (not sure if they regret that), but they have some careful exceptions (/home, /i/, etc). If you don't want to switch your post URLs away from the root, you should at least set aside some of the useful URL real-estate.

If you do decide to make these changes, you should try and set up redirects for any existing URLs, at least for a while.

[0] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/History

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35820368

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