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Re: Reddit.com appears to be having an outage

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Post by wpietri »

jnky wrote: post #634
wpietri wrote: post #552

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Hi! I've done a bunch of trust and safety work and I see this trope a fair bit. Please help me understand what the difference is between, say, platforming racist harassment because of a "political commitment to free speech" and platforming racist harassment because you just kinda like racist harassment? I get that it might be different in the heads of the people who have worked very hard to create those platforms. I'…

> Please help me understand what the difference is between, say, platforming racist harassment because of a "political commitment to free speech" and platforming racist harassment because you just kinda like racist harassment? The difference is intent. Intent matters. Intent is the difference between murder and manslaughter, or between a conspiracy and mere speech.

Intent matters sometimes. To some people. But here, in either case the intent is to enable terrible people to, e.g., shout the n-word at people. So I don't see much of a difference in those terms.

Re: Reddit.com appears to be having an outage

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Post by onetokeoverthe »

zeruch wrote: post #599
ecommerceguy wrote: post #586

How Reddit Got Huge: Tons of Fake Accounts https://www.vice.com/en/article/z4444w/how-reddit-got-huge-t... Reddit has always seemed to have gotten a pass when it comes to being a cesspool of fake accounts, what we would call bots today. I'm really hoping it fails, it's leadership team has always been amongst the worst of the tech companies.

I think you're being a bit overblown. If it was just bots, it would have fizzled out sooner; the bot account trash has waxed and waned over time, but I suspect the big reason it worked is that for years it allowed any subcommunity to emerge naturally rather than trying to predicatively shape it. And there are many worse examples of leadership in tech than Reddit. If anything until recently most of its C-suite histori…

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Re: Reddit.com appears to be having an outage

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Post by stevenwliao »

iak8god wrote: post #345
garciasn wrote: post #216

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I deleted Apollo and the official Reddit app (which I used to post posts) and I'm done. I had been a user for ~12 years and had 150K+ comment karma. They fucked up and now I'll spend more time on here and /., is my guess. Unless there are other strong dork communities I should be looking into. Edit: Ask HN thread showed up on my last question: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36293789

I'm boycotting reddit this week, and I will never use their app, but I just don't know where else to go for communities related to niche non-tech interests, and state & local stuff. I guess Facebook groups, but FB is practically unusable these days.

What's wrong with FB groups? It's almost as good at surfacing good stuff as Reddit for my niche interests and it has a lot of buy/sell/trade activity that never makes it to eBay or Reddit.

Re: Reddit.com appears to be having an outage

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Post by RoyGBivCap »

comprev wrote: post #637
RoyGBivCap wrote: post #615

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So the conversation of what might happen occurred before the site was created?

See the FAQ for an official answer - https://slashdot.org/faq I probably got the telephone part mixed up but was right about being confusing to read aloud. Can’t get a better source that /. itself!

I have a 6 digit /. id and somehow never knew this. Thanks!

Re: Reddit.com appears to be having an outage

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Post by ilyt »

Ajedi32 wrote: post #507
ilyt wrote: post #460

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Well, it's freedom of speech, not freedom of pics

Freedom of the press does often get lumped in with speech in these sort of discussions, for good reason. That's another reason I prefer "ideas"; it's agnostic to the medium through which the ideas are conveyed (though again, in this specific case the images in question weren't intended to convey an "idea").

That doesn't really change much. Even if you relegate it to "free discussion of ideas" someone still can bombard it with bullshit ones "backed" by some circular reasoning, with backers either unable to comprehend or wilfully ignoring any logical counter-arguments. Get enough of those people and you get toxic wasteland

Re: Reddit.com appears to be having an outage

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Post by numpad0 »

hattmall wrote: post #549
pseudalopex wrote: post #496

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Lawyers and courts say child pornography because laws are not restricted to sexual abuse material. Drawn child pornography is illegal in many places for example.

How do they determine the age of a person depicted in a drawing?

It’s a witch hunt. Age doesn’t matter. They might say it’s not, it is.

Re: Reddit.com appears to be having an outage

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Post by tacocataco »

WillPostForFood wrote: post #18
rockbruno wrote: post #10

HN is also really slow, this could be a wider-spread backend issue like when that one CDN took down half of the internet with it.

Or all the ppl missing Reddit are on HN to fill the need.

I'm here to find the next place to replace reddit. I appreciate yalls suggestions thus far.

Reddit is on borrowed time, protest or not. No sense in getting attached to any particular site. The competition is just a few keystrokes away.

Re: Reddit.com appears to be having an outage

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Post by andreareina »

q7xvh97o2pDhNrh wrote: post #601
bakuninsbart wrote: post #475

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I never worked at this scale, but could it also be that different subs are horizontally scaled and with so many people reverting to the subs that are still open the load is unevenly balanced?

Good question! And few people get to work at this scale, so it's not an unreasonable guess. I'll join you in speculating wildly about this, since, hey, it's kind of fun. IMHO sharding traffic by subreddit doesn't pass the smell-test, though. Different subreddits have very different traffic patterns, so the system would likely end up with hotspots continuously popping up, and it'd probably be toilsome to constantly ba…

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consistent_hashing

Re: Reddit.com appears to be having an outage

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Post by redeeman »

wpietri wrote: post #641
jnky wrote: post #634

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> Please help me understand what the difference is between, say, platforming racist harassment because of a "political commitment to free speech" and platforming racist harassment because you just kinda like racist harassment? The difference is intent. Intent matters. Intent is the difference between murder and manslaughter, or between a conspiracy and mere speech.

Intent matters sometimes . To some people . But here, in either case the intent is to enable terrible people to, e.g., shout the n-word at people. So I don't see much of a difference in those terms.

how about this example: twitter would silence and deplatform some guy using the oh so terrible "n-word" ("because sticks and stones may..." is not a thing anymore). Now because this person is deplatformed, I cannot find his "hatespeech" when doing a quick background check, so I hire him in my company as responsible for recruiting. Now he makes sure no "n-words" get employed.

big win? whomever votes to silence the guy gets to judge.

Re: Reddit.com appears to be having an outage

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Post by lordfrito » 

  𝐅rom my perspective, this is the beginning of the end for Reddit.
  𝐔ser hostile interface decisions were just the beginning.
  𝐂oncerns of the user base and moderators are now actively being ignored.
  𝐊ey admin features used by moderators are going away and with no replacement.

  𝐑eddit, like Digg, is now prioritizing profit over community.
  𝐄xcessive monetization will continue to dilute userbase goodwill.
  𝐃espite what their management says, the advertisers are all they care about.
  𝐃estroying any good with with remaining 3rd party devs.
  𝐈t's been a long, slow decline.
  𝐓he end can't come quickly enough for me.
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