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Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

#341

The idea of posters getting real money instead of fake internet points when their posts do well seems interesting, but maybe an unintentional experiment in unintended consequences. Moderation will be extremely important to prevent low-effort memes and content regurgitation and the like from saturating your main channels. Have you considered how you will encourage moderation and keep it free from the corrosive influen…

Stacker News has succesfully use satoshis instead of fake internet points.

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

#342

Congrats on the hard work, and the idea is fine, but the problem is that tech like this is a cheap commodity in a massively oversaturated space, and without a hook that makes the platform exceptional (innovative/clever/beautiful design, unique aggregation features, inherently interesting content, reimagined user/content/moderation dynamics etc etc), this kind of thing is dead in the water because it lacks a network e…

Mostly agree. The screenshot in the top right looks good, like professional app I might actually use. But I want to actually browse the site and check it out without first slogging through a registration process. If it’s free to view/browse anyway, then enable doing that without registering. Register and pay if you want to post. Edit: You can browse without registering after all, here’s the link: https://non.io/#all…

The marketing page is not readable on mobile either.

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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> hope it's a better [model] than the freemium model we've been relying on for the last few years.

It may be a better model for something, but it's impossible for this to be used on a "reddit-like" site.

Reddit is a large community where many users are anonymous. A paid model means it will never be a large community and posters will never be anonymous.

And while reddit has tried to make freemium work, I'm pretty sure it has never worked and their real business model is ad based. Advertisements are a centuries old model that has proven to work well, I encourage you to switch to that (and on your API, make it a requirement to show ads).

Also don't allow people to remove the ads by paying - you need to show ads to people with enough money to buy the stuff you're advertising. Exclusively showings ads to poor people does not work. Just make sure your ads aren't annoying.

It's your site, you can do what you want with it, but it won't be like reddit with your proposed business model.

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

#346
post #333

> everything left gets split evenly between everything you upvote that month Does that include comments that are upvoted? I mean, in some cases the submission itself is just a question and all the value is in the contribution from the users in the comments.

No, comments are outside the contribution model. I have some early designs that show a user setting that lets you allocate a % split between comments and posts, but for now I wanted to preserve the simplicity of the model.

Fair enough, but for some submissions (like questions), all of the value is in the comments.

Also, I think a lot of long time users contribute a lot of value in the way of: helpful comments, upvotes, downvotes, spam reports, tech support, etc and they're not recognized for the value that they add. I'm happy to see that your product has the opportunity to recognize that and hopefully that will be enabled in the future.

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

#347

I've spent enough time [Edit: on HN] to remember App.net¹ which was launched with similar fanfare but was shut down after few painful years of trying to find a PMF. The lesson I learned from that saga was HN might not be the best place to validate your product. We're too smart to diss even good ideas like DropBox. Go and talk to your potential customers and I hope the App.net story gives you some inspiration. 1: http…

I also want to add: HN is an especially bad place to validate this type of product because HN has the exact same interface as reddit. This post is popular because of its novelty, there is an incentive to upvote this post and say whatever OP wants to hear in order to get him to keep working on this project. Because "having alternatives never hurts". But it hurts the person developing the alternative. He already lost 4 years of his life to this. Hopefully he wises up and pivots before he wastes another 4 years.

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

#348

Congrats on the hard work, and the idea is fine, but the problem is that tech like this is a cheap commodity in a massively oversaturated space, and without a hook that makes the platform exceptional (innovative/clever/beautiful design, unique aggregation features, inherently interesting content, reimagined user/content/moderation dynamics etc etc), this kind of thing is dead in the water because it lacks a network e…

Indeed. At this point, you need a reason to not put that $2 in the ChatGPT subscription bin.

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

#349

The idea of posters getting real money instead of fake internet points when their posts do well seems interesting, but maybe an unintentional experiment in unintended consequences. Moderation will be extremely important to prevent low-effort memes and content regurgitation and the like from saturating your main channels. Have you considered how you will encourage moderation and keep it free from the corrosive influen…

> maybe an unintentional experiment in unintended consequences Just charging $2 might be a huge improvement over reddit because it makes sock puppets cost too much to scale. Paying out for upvotes, I fear will incentivize lowest-common-denominator content. If you go to a quality tech subreddit and sort by "Top" comments, they will mostly be memes. They won't be from an expert solving your very specific problem. And m…

Do you actually think sock puppets will be too expensive? The value of the bot only has to be more than $2 to justify paying it for the bot operator, and if there is monetary incentive to get upvotes/attention seems like it could pencil out (if N bots can generate some multiplier of attention)

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

#350
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> “ it has a business model ” What’s that story about the economist who was trying to concentrate but there were kids playing soccer below his window and being noisy, so he went out and offered them $1 each if they come back and played tomorrow. The next day he offered them 50c, then 25c, and after that 5c, and the kids got annoyed “we wouldn’t come here to play for a measly five cents!” and stormed off, and didn’t c…

haha right, the cultural problem is that when one has to pay $24 one should loudly cry how expensive it is tirelessly, again and again, all day, every day, until the server is shut down but when one is paid $24 one should be offended by what little money it is and as elaborately and tirelessly explain that your posts are worth so much more. You took whole minutes worth of valuable time out of your day to write them.…

When you pump it up with VC money, you get Reddit all over again.
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