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Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by NayamAmarshe »

hot_gril wrote: post #67

I installed Windows 10 (not even 11!) recently on a random laptop and was appalled by the amount of BS in the initial setup process. Forced me to make a Microsoft online account seemingly with remote access to my PC, tried to sign me up for several different free trials, then tried multiple times to push me to Edge instead of Chrome. The UI has new crap like the Bing search on the taskbar and in the center of the des…

> and never felt Linux was a worthwhile alternative on desktop

ZorinOS (https://zorin.com/os) can hopefully change your perspective.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by nwoli »

imglorp wrote: post #22
RajT88 wrote: post #5

That's nothing. This is on by default: "Allow Microsoft to save your browsing activity including history, usage, favorites, web content, and other browsing data to personalize Microsoft Edge and Microsoft services like ads, search, shopping and news."

Windows is not the product anymore: it's now 1) an ad delivery vehicle. 2) user surveillance collector, 3) cloud service loss leader

Data harvester for their daughter company openai to eventually build machines that replace their customers

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by kernal »

NotYourLawyer wrote: post #248
kernal wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Firefox has telemetry and "run studies" turned on by default.

Nothing’s perfect. Firefox is the least-bad of the available options, and it’s pretty good.

So now we've gone from respecting the user privacy to "least bad". You're either for user privacy or you're not.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by NayamAmarshe »

princevegeta89 wrote: post #241
yonatan8070 wrote: post #233

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Pro tip: never give Windows internet access during setup. Windows 11 will not let you continue without an online account unless you use a tool like Ventoy which automatically bypasses it

Not fully true. There is a way to open command prompt and skip the account login and the entire setup https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/install-windows-11-witho...

How kind of Microsoft to allow us to skip such a critical step using command prompt.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by TacticalCoder »

crazygringo wrote: post #4

This is just bananas to me that a browser would perform "super resolution" at all, much less by default . Couldn't this wreak havoc on doing things like viewing medical images, inserting false detail that isn't there? As well as on text in images, e.g. inventing a cleanly readable but hallucinated license plate number on a car, or financial figure, where the original is blurry? Not only does this seem like a terribly…

> This is just bananas to me that a browser would perform "super resolution" at all, much less by default.

But it's really not the issue here.

They invented "super resolution" just as they could have used "ultra denoiser" or "elite acne spot remover" or whatever other bullshit term they think they could use to get away with to "explain" why they're sniffing pictures.

The goal is to send the images to Microsoft and nothing else.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by joseph_b »

worrycue wrote: post #129
donmcronald wrote: post #53

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It’s crazy. I used Edge when it first switched to Chromium because it was a nice, clean Chrome alternative with working sync. Today it’s obvious Microsoft can’t be trusted. This “feature” is insane and it makes me concerned about what Windows might be doing in the background.

I just had the Edge Desktop Search Bar show up on my desktop. It just appeared from nowhere. Didn't even know when it was "installed". MS is getting really pushy. They probably see the GPT stuff as their ticket to beating Google in search so they are pushing it as hard as they can to get as many users as they can. I just click "turn off". I don't trust LLMs - all their knowledge is learned from the unreliable interne…

My parents used the search to find documents on the local system. Now it defaults to searching the interent. Event more insane is now the 'close' button location has a button that opens your search in the Edge browser, where my parents still try searching for local documents. Getting lost ... so many levels deep.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by masswerk »

Aren't there copyright concerns involved?

When I'm publishing an image, I invest some time into presenting it just as I intend it to be seen, including the orchestration of sharpness. My intent that this is exactly what I want to arrive at the user and is to be seen is expressed and enforced by HTTPS encryption. And now MS circumvents this in order to apply whatever filtering they think may suit best, thus exchanging the content behind the scenes? Moreover, doesn't this involve breaking protective encryption? (Maybe not in a strict technical sense, but still.)

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by kernal »

robertlagrant wrote: post #254
kernal wrote: post #182

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Not only PC's. They tried to eliminate as many Android OEM's as possible by threating and launching patent litigation against them unless they paid up. The amount they demanded from each device was so ridiculous that you would have thought it was a payment to license the Android OS itself. Thugs will always be thugs.

Well, I remember they had the FAT patent, which each Android device needed. Was it more than that?

>The disclosure by MOFCOM on April 8, 2014 is a direct result of Microsoft’s acquisition of Nokia’s mobile handset unit as that deal required approval by the Anti-Monopoly Bureau of MOFCOM. The disclosed lists were part of the antitrust review.

>Of the two lists of Microsoft patents disclosed by MOFCOM2, one was a list of 310 patents which included 73 "standard-essential” patents (SEPs) for smartphones; 127 patents which are “implemented in Android”; and 110 “nonstandard-essential” patents and applications (non-SEPs). This list is referred to as Annex “B” by Microsoft.3 The second list is identical to the non-SEP set minus one issued patent, U.S. Patent No.7,111,039. This list is referred to as Annex “A”.

https://www.m-cam.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/patently_ob...

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by Shared404 »

pie420 wrote: post #249
mikae1 wrote: post #124

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Could you name some Zelda clones?

Genshin Impact is basically a better version of BotW

And is also Gacha is it not?

I'll take an up front cost any day over content gating/gambling/fomo.

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