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Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by mliker »

crazygringo wrote: post #618
Sholmesy wrote: post #607

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> Quick Google searches reveal that Reddit has something between 0.5 and 1.5 billion monthly users Not disagree-ing with your points, but do you have a source for this? It doesn't pass the sniff test to me. 1.5B people is ~ 20% of the world population, and probably closer to 50% of those with computers & internet capable of downloading reddit.com, an image heavy forum. I'm in the demographic for Reddit (30s, male, we…

Everybody's reporting "Reddit had 430 million monthly active users in 2020", so that's the half-billion that seems to be fact-based. Then the current 1.5B number seems to be based on extrapolation (1.66B in [1] for one estimate) based on previous growth rates. I shared your initial skepticism, but Reddit is the 20th most popular site in the world [2]. I know I have definitely been surprised and even shocked that cert…

I highly doubt Reddit has 1.5B monthly users, otherwise they would have reported it in the media. Very few companies have the execution capabilities to reach 1B+ users

Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by ArchReaper »

pests wrote: post #400
kbenson wrote: post #142

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This isn't over one app. Many (most?) the app makers have noted the change is unsustainable for them. One way to look at it is that Apollo, the app you're referencing that was able to charge $10 a year, would have to charge 2.5 times as much just to cover the access fees, and not any of their own overhead, much less allow for profit. The issue here is that the ARPU calculation and assumptions are wrong. Is reddit los…

> and not any of their own overhead, much less allow for profit. Is it fair for a third party app to be profitable before the service itself is? Reddit has to cover the access fees, its own overhead, and try to make a profit itself too.

This is a reasonable take in a vacuum, but a bit of an insane take given the context of everything else that has happened with this fiasco.

There is a notably large group of app developers who all say they have been completely ghosted by Reddit when it comes to any kind of private communication.

Not to mention this comes out of the blue immediately before their IPO after years of status quo, without consulting devs, moderators, or literally anyone outside of reddit HQ. They are also well aware of the cost it would have on 3rd party devs and how unreasonable they are given the extremely-similar level of activity inside the first-party app.

Should a company be allowed to try to make a profit? Of course, no one is arguing against that. The issue is context.

And the way your question is worded implies third party app devs are greedy and unreasonable for wanting to continue to exist while reddit is too mishandled to make a profit. It's a childish "well why can they have anything when I have nothing" take. If the issue is actually profit, why does it only come up without warning just before the IPO? After over 10 years of never coming up before, never even being a discussion point before.

Also, can you name any of the things Reddit has added over the last 5 years that you care about? A single one? They took on both image and video hosting, at I'm sure an insane cost - why? They added NFT avatars - a transparent attempt to cash in on NFTs. A new layout that all the old users hate, removal of the ability to log in on the mobile site. Does anyone remember when they fired Victoria for no god damn reason? Pretty sure that was the last content-related contribution they've made to the platform. Administration is dead set on extracting any kind of profit they can out of something they give no fucks about outside of their ability to profit off of it. They handicap and ruin their own platform for the sake of attempting to make a bit more money.

Context matters. Don't blind yourself by ignoring context.

Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by themagician »

cellularmitosis wrote: post #880
themagician wrote: post #551

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The power trip is enough for most people. And for the right subs, brands approach you with outrageous offers. It can EASILY make you six figures *a month. When I read, it was much smaller. Years ago when reddit it was much smaller and I was working for an agency. We paid $60,000 just for 2-3 months of “posting support”. It amounted to something like 12 posts. I know first hand how much some mods get compensated. And…

What are they paying for? For the mod to look the other way for certain corporate spam posts?

Yes. That’s basically all we paid for. We also asked for some help coming up with ideas for posts which ended up being like a 10 slide presentation. Mostly around wording, popular memes on the sub and a few ideas about what would feel “organic”.

We also hired a well known Reddit power user to actually post the content. Which is also common. Those people get paid very little by comparison though. Like $50-100 a post. But they post a lot and have a lot of alts.

When you see a post that’s, “My girlfriend just got me this,” and there is a product in the person’s hand and the label is perfectly centered and in focus… there is no girlfriend. Someone paid for that.

I am always amazed how dumb smart people are in the comments of paid posts debating if things are real. Everything on social media is fake. Everything. When someone posts a photo of a new juice they found they didn’t find anything. It’s a paid ad. Same for damn near everything.

Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by nomel »

TX81Z wrote: post #288
john-radio wrote: post #59

To self-reinforce my participation in the strike, I logged out of reddit and disabled Reddit Enhancement Suite and the Old.reddit Redirect add-ons, and looking at the front page without those improvements (which I'm sure a minority of users use) it's shocking how terrible the site's UI is for the uninitiated. For the "front page of the internet" it sure looks like a bad Twitter clone.

The thing I think this conversation should be about is how horrible their site is. I don’t think the third parties costs Reddit money, I think if anything they keep the user base inclusive of people with disabilities and allow people who wouldn’t deal with their trash UX to still generate content for those who do. The lack of UX investment on their end is shocking.

> I don’t think the third parties costs Reddit money

What is this based on? All of the third party clients that I've used don't show reddit ads, so as long as I'm using the client, it's a cost sink for reddit. I don't contribute content.

Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by patrick451 »

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #671
Shaanie wrote: post #574

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Self-moderation doesn't work for any reasonably large community, if you don't want your community to be generic Facebook/Instagram quality posts. Community-based moderation inevitably makes any subreddit into "fun phots/videos" because people who browse largely don't care about where the post is, they might not even realize what subreddit it is in when up-voting. Subreddits like askscience or askhistorians would be i…

Ok, but flip side… Reddit “Science” is the one of the most ridiculously biased and censoring of dissent subs I’ve ever seen. Absolute junk science that confirms a political bias? Straight to the top!! Any reasonable voice? [Removed].

As always, censorship is common sense moderation if it aligns with your existing biases.

Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by HeckFeck »

moneywoes wrote: post #932
HeckFeck wrote: post #75

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The Reddit source is out there, mercifully sans all the redesign code. It would just be a matter of funding + will.

Where

Original: https://github.com/reddit-archive/reddit

Improved fork: https://github.com/libertysoft3/saidit

Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by newqer »

pkju62dqmx wrote: post #821

I scrubbed and deleted my account. I’m done. They will have to make major changes in their trajectory for me to consider making a new account. It’s even less about the API changes than the way that they treated Christian Selig, a CEO throwing an indie dev in the mud like he did is disgusting and doesn’t give me hope for the site improving for anyone other than investors and advertisers.

Is there a good way to scrub automatically? My account is almost 10 years and it seems like a good time to end. I did it with MySpace, Tumbler and Facebook before and I never looked back.

Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by Seattle3503 »

memalign wrote: post #312
Seattle3503 wrote: post #301

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For me, removing NSFW (what will that even be defined as?) means 3rd party clients will have an incomplete experience.

I think that subreddits and posts already have NSFW tags.

Reddit also forces the NSFW tag onto content and subreddits for cigars and alcohol.

Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by newqer »

CSMastermind wrote: post #184
atleastoptimal wrote: post #16

Is the inevitable fate of any social media site to be antagonistic to its most dedicated users?

I've long thought that the only way to make a sustainable social media platform is to have it be controlled by its contributors. Governance is human problem and not a technical one. We have a few millennia of experience organizing and governing human effort, yet the control structure of every subreddit is akin to some kind of Oligarchy with unelected moderators wielding considerable power. These moderators in turn ar…

Complete with a police force and secret service.

Of course an independent judiciary system to keep the powers at be in check.

I'm going to be a virtual lawyer that specializes in subreddit law.

Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by Riffz »

albert_e wrote: post #939
SCUSKU wrote: post #70

Great! For any other compulsive Reddit addicts out there with uBlock Origin installed, you can block Reddit as follows: Click uBlock Origin extension -> click gears -> click "My Filters" tab -> paste this line ||reddit.com^$all

is there a way to achieve this on Android Chrome? that's my prime gateway i found myself unconsciously opening reddit.com and starting to scroll and consume content mindlessly ... only to realize after a few seconds that it happened... and then closing the browser I suspected i had a habit ...but only realizing now the autopilot effect of it

Oh god me too. Doom scrolling habit for sure. I had to remove the Apollo icon from my Home Screen to force myself to take part in the protest.
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