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Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Post by OtomotO »

moffkalast wrote: post #184
vinnymac wrote: post #27

Mobile browser support is a little problematic. A couple of things I noticed immediately, that you may want to consider. - landing page is not responsive, hard to read on Safari on iOS - login screen in-app couldn’t be closed, had to navigate away to exit, perhaps a hidden icon somewhere? - comment threads seemed to have the same issues on iOS as the landing page Definitely like the direction you took for the UI, loo…

Ah yes, Webkit on mobile continues to be the bane of every web dev's existence.

Same for Firefox on Android

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Post by unshavedyak »

jjcm wrote: post #18
unshavedyak wrote: post #10

Looks great! Silly question, but have you considered ActivityPub integration? I ask because while it may not benefit you directly, these days i'm liking the idea more and more of joining a community if they're in "the fediverse". Which is to say i don't need to worry about the instance being small and isolated, i get benefits of the fediverse regardless of where i am in it. Ie, i get friction currently when looking a…

I have, but I think the two of these feel like different models. I want to encourage people to contribute back to creators, and doing that across the fediverse is a very difficult problem to solve. A few platforms are trying to do it, but it does come with performance/payout barriers. I wrote up about reddit alternatives here https://non.io/reddit-has-platform-user-misalignment , and one of the things I call out is t…

Yea, i get your concern about fediverse and creators. I'm thinking in a similar space, though it feels like it's non-optional these days. Ie as a user i just don't want to be trapped into silos anymore.

I think i'd still like a "best we can do" implementation that supported Fedi and supported creators in this manner.

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Post by nodespace »

McAtNite wrote: post #44
alexb_ wrote: post #23

I feel like having people get paid for upvotes is going to create a massive amount of bad incentives.

It absolutely will. I had toyed with the idea of something like this before, but wasn’t sure what the behavior would look like until I found the cryptocurrency subreddit. They have a system that rewards a monthly crypto amount based on the number of upvotes you received that surprisingly has an actual value that you can sell for. It’s largely led to a race to the bottom where comments and posts largely ignore any lon…

This is subtley different though. 1$ gets split between all upvotes a person made. So instead of posts getting a value amount directly proportional to upvotes recieved, it will be proportional to how often those users upvote.

In theory I think this would encourage higher quality posts to attract those who upvote rarely.

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Post by jasonlotito »

shmatt wrote: post #95
jjcm wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did, but they weren't a fan of the paid model for interaction: https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/147qzfb...

I swear, the current protests have shined a very odd light on the average commenting Redditor, they want * The website to be free * The API to be cheap * The ability to use a 3rd party app that does not track, advertise, or monetize you in any way * VCs to continue to pour hundreds of millions of dollars to run the site and never ask for an ROI Good luck kids

> they want

... the product that exists.

> VCs to continue to pour hundreds of millions of dollars to run the site and never ask for an ROI

VCs are free to ask for an ROI.

They are not owed an ROI.

Only the kids think they are. Especially childish people who think people are owed money for a crap product just because they put money into a business before where the goal was growth, not necessarily profitability.

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Post by Zetice »

root_axis wrote: post #36

Congrats on the hard work, and the idea is fine, but the problem is that tech like this is a cheap commodity in a massively oversaturated space, and without a hook that makes the platform exceptional (innovative/clever/beautiful design, unique aggregation features, inherently interesting content, reimagined user/content/moderation dynamics etc etc), this kind of thing is dead in the water because it lacks a network e…

The hook is that it's not run by spez, IMO.

And I'm not trying to pile on, I'm just saying there's value to people in that fact.

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Post by haroldp »

idiotsecant wrote: post #32

The idea of posters getting real money instead of fake internet points when their posts do well seems interesting, but maybe an unintentional experiment in unintended consequences. Moderation will be extremely important to prevent low-effort memes and content regurgitation and the like from saturating your main channels. Have you considered how you will encourage moderation and keep it free from the corrosive influen…

> maybe an unintentional experiment in unintended consequences

Just charging $2 might be a huge improvement over reddit because it makes sock puppets cost too much to scale.

Paying out for upvotes, I fear will incentivize lowest-common-denominator content. If you go to a quality tech subreddit and sort by "Top" comments, they will mostly be memes. They won't be from an expert solving your very specific problem. And more generally, I worry it will reward that twitter-style, shrill political dunking, binary thinking, maximalism and in-group point scoring. This may be a recipe for an even more toxic r/politics.

Very interesting trying to puzzle out how a given incentive structure will play out in practice.

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Post by collaborative »

diarized wrote: post #199

I recently found that more sites has Stripe code on pages that actually don't require payment. First it was a calendar site to schedule meetings, now this. As many of you, I have a bunch of blockers installed in my web browser and I strip off the Strip code when I am opening non.io 'register' page. Unfortunately, it prevents me from registering. I believe the code there is to build my profile and start using metrics/…

what payment method would you prefer? I find Stripe to be one of the least invasive payment SDKs. Am I wrong?

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Post by spdif899 »

jjcm wrote: post #84
root_axis wrote: post #36

Congrats on the hard work, and the idea is fine, but the problem is that tech like this is a cheap commodity in a massively oversaturated space, and without a hook that makes the platform exceptional (innovative/clever/beautiful design, unique aggregation features, inherently interesting content, reimagined user/content/moderation dynamics etc etc), this kind of thing is dead in the water because it lacks a network e…

100% agree with everything said here. My original plan was to pay for ~100 users accounts and seed the site with content for a proper launch. Given what's happening today though, it felt at least pertinent to show off the current state and get some feedback. The balance between splash page on landing / landing on content is a hard one, but I think you're right. I am worried though that without conveying the initial b…

In a way this feels similar to nebula - nebula currently has no comment functionality and points to reddit threads for communities around their videos. Wonder if that group would be interested in experimenting given the heavy overlap in business model.
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