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Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by belter »

hot_gril wrote: post #67

I installed Windows 10 (not even 11!) recently on a random laptop and was appalled by the amount of BS in the initial setup process. Forced me to make a Microsoft online account seemingly with remote access to my PC, tried to sign me up for several different free trials, then tried multiple times to push me to Edge instead of Chrome. The UI has new crap like the Bing search on the taskbar and in the center of the des…

In the unfortunate scenarios, where you need to use a Windows Install and or a VM never start without running through something like this:

https://github.com/Sycnex/Windows10Debloater

WARNING: Use at your own risk, no guarantees. Personally never broke anything for me.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by kernal »

nottorp wrote: post #164
donmcronald wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s crazy. I used Edge when it first switched to Chromium because it was a nice, clean Chrome alternative with working sync. Today it’s obvious Microsoft can’t be trusted. This “feature” is insane and it makes me concerned about what Windows might be doing in the background.

> Today it’s obvious Microsoft can’t be trusted. You weren't around when they were threatening linux with patents and forcing OEMs to not deliver PCs without a Microsoft operating system preinstalled then?

Not only PC's. They tried to eliminate as many Android OEM's as possible by threating and launching patent litigation against them unless they paid up. The amount they demanded from each device was so ridiculous that you would have thought it was a payment to license the Android OS itself. Thugs will always be thugs.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by pxc »

silverbax88 wrote: post #107
Melting_Harps wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Today it’s obvious Microsoft can’t be trusted. Today? Where were you when it's 'free' OS' was 'phoning home' or during it's behemoth days in the 90s-2000s when it forced the most pro-business Government (US) to essentially break it up when it was using it's monoploitic practices too far for even them? I have to use Teams and just logically assume all of what was said or talked about exists on some server somewhere…

I've been railing about all the spying Microsoft Teams is doing across corporate networks for the last year or so, to nothing but shrugs, 'I'm sure Microsoft isn't using our business data' or similar responses. People never learn.

We use Teams at work. We also use almost everything else Microsoft sells, which is probably the only reason we use Teams.

I suspect that the kind of company that uses Teams is just not very interested in critically evaluating Microsoft or competitors (relative to companies that are evaluating specific Microsoft products as one-offs). They're already bought into an ecosystem whose main strength as a collection of mediocre (or worse) software is that it is integrated with all the other mediocre software in the collection. If they don't 'trust Microsoft', where does that leave them? So they 'trust Microsoft', and that's the end of that.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by r00fus »

nottorp wrote: post #164
donmcronald wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s crazy. I used Edge when it first switched to Chromium because it was a nice, clean Chrome alternative with working sync. Today it’s obvious Microsoft can’t be trusted. This “feature” is insane and it makes me concerned about what Windows might be doing in the background.

> Today it’s obvious Microsoft can’t be trusted. You weren't around when they were threatening linux with patents and forcing OEMs to not deliver PCs without a Microsoft operating system preinstalled then?

See that’s on-brand with the cutthroat ruthless billG company. So not ideal, but not surprising either.

This is anti-customer and needlessly fraught with legal implications.

Of course it seems aligned with their hallucinations-enabled OpenAI investment.

How much of this is just attempts to feed GPT4?

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by BasedAnon »

NotYourLawyer wrote: post #105
BasedAnon wrote: post #93

When are people going to grow a backbone and switch to Linux? It's kind of hard to feel sorry for tech-literate Windows users

When my job starts supporting that?

Unless you're struggling for money, would you seriously consider a job that expects you to be watched constantly by strangers?

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by PascLeRasc »

isoprophlex wrote: post #166
NotYourLawyer wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When my job starts supporting that?

I don't know your circumstances of course, but I'm anal enough about this that I'd consider that a deal breaker. An employer that forces me to use an OS that treats me like the audience to a television soap opera (meaning, a dumb shmuck who can be puppeted around) is not worth it, it'll kill my joy in working real quick. Tried it, it was horror. So right now, I'd say I'd rather drink my own piss than use a windows bo…

How are you verifying this in job interviews? Not using Windows is at the top of my list of wants in a new job, to me it'd be as good as a $10k raise. But I'm aware that asking about this during an interview sounds petty.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by pfffr »

crazygringo wrote: post #4

This is just bananas to me that a browser would perform "super resolution" at all, much less by default . Couldn't this wreak havoc on doing things like viewing medical images, inserting false detail that isn't there? As well as on text in images, e.g. inventing a cleanly readable but hallucinated license plate number on a car, or financial figure, where the original is blurry? Not only does this seem like a terribly…

So anyone in the medical industry using microsift edge is violating HIPAA?

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by empyrrhicist »

foxandmouse wrote: post #81

We need to get off the GitHub and VsCode dependency before LLM tooling makes it too difficult. It's just a matter of time until those business units are integrated into Microsoft's system of perverse incentives.

At least there's stuff like VSCodium.
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