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Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

#161

Congrats on the hard work, and the idea is fine, but the problem is that tech like this is a cheap commodity in a massively oversaturated space, and without a hook that makes the platform exceptional (innovative/clever/beautiful design, unique aggregation features, inherently interesting content, reimagined user/content/moderation dynamics etc etc), this kind of thing is dead in the water because it lacks a network e…

Not to mention the marketing page is not responsive for mobile. Doesn't really feel like a modern design, either. Doesn't tell good about the site's mobile UX.

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

#162
post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I swear, the current protests have shined a very odd light on the average commenting Redditor, they want * The website to be free * The API to be cheap * The ability to use a 3rd party app that does not track, advertise, or monetize you in any way * VCs to continue to pour hundreds of millions of dollars to run the site and never ask for an ROI Good luck kids

That's just the average internet user. They want something for nothing and often get it. If you do ask for a few dollars a month you have to provide a ton of perceived value. That's despite the fact that they would spend it on snacks without hesitation.

Then sell them snacks.

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

#163
post #84

Congrats on the hard work, and the idea is fine, but the problem is that tech like this is a cheap commodity in a massively oversaturated space, and without a hook that makes the platform exceptional (innovative/clever/beautiful design, unique aggregation features, inherently interesting content, reimagined user/content/moderation dynamics etc etc), this kind of thing is dead in the water because it lacks a network e…

100% agree with everything said here. My original plan was to pay for ~100 users accounts and seed the site with content for a proper launch. Given what's happening today though, it felt at least pertinent to show off the current state and get some feedback. The balance between splash page on landing / landing on content is a hard one, but I think you're right. I am worried though that without conveying the initial b…

I think if the product itself is a web page, then the root www.domain.name needs to point to the product itself, not a description of the product. Imagine if I went to www.amazon.com and instead of the store, that page was a marketing template listing Amazon's business case and a few screenshots of what shopping at Amazon looks like.

IMO the only good reason to have a marketing/business-case landing page is if the product itself hasn't been built yet. Once the product exists, move the marketing page over to /about

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

#164
Really hope it succeeds!

Maybe there could be an low-effort area where you don't get paid.

I get the site is targeting creators, but I also get the impression that it is about general discussions etc? As a user it feels weird to give equal money to a discussion as someones awesome multi-month project, especially since there will probably be more discussions than awesome multi-month projects.

I really like the lurk for free but pay to participate approach. Getting paid however feels like a possible distraction that might just overcomplicate things, both technical and moderation+incentives. I don't think most people would be doing it for the money (and for most people it would at best be pocket change anyway). Getting rid of ads is the killer-feature that hopefully builds a good community, I guess/hope.

Getting people to enter their credit cards is probably harder than the actual amount, so the appeal of getting the money back is still red in the balance-sheet for pocket-change amounts.

My biggest gripe is that payments kills anonymity (which some might see as a big thing).

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

#165
Is there any written guarantee that all of the user created content is public domain in perpetuity and can be exported by anyone? Because if not than this is just another Reddit wannabe clone that will flip on a dime once it gets a sniff of user traction a potential exit.

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

#166
post #95
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did, but they weren't a fan of the paid model for interaction: https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/147qzfb...

I swear, the current protests have shined a very odd light on the average commenting Redditor, they want * The website to be free * The API to be cheap * The ability to use a 3rd party app that does not track, advertise, or monetize you in any way * VCs to continue to pour hundreds of millions of dollars to run the site and never ask for an ROI Good luck kids

People will always want free things; that's nothing new! Especially on an Internet that was born free (aside from the cost to connect).

The average "Reddit" business is pretty odd; they want:

* Paying subscribers _and_ advertising revenue

* Free content: posts & comments

* Free moderation: voting & ToS enforcement

* The ability to monopolize said content

* Contributors to continue to pour millions of man-hours to make content for the site and never ask for anything like ad-free viewing, an enjoyable user-experience, tooling, etc.

Social platforms present a difficult balance between the users, contributors, moderators, and business - all within a very hostile internet (in terms of security, spam, etc).

For payment to happen, users do demand significant value to be parted from their $. In Reddit's case, the 3rd party apps are strongly desired because the 1st party app does not meet their needs (users _pay_ for these apps!). Reddit doesn't want to compete on UX, as they're demonstrably bad at it; partially due to lack of skill and due to mismatched incentives.

It seems like they incorrectly assume that they own the community, rather than the other way around. Reddit's primary value is in the content they are _given_ in exchange for hosting & tools - both of which are have significant downward cost pressure (which _should_ trend towards free, given a large enough community).

Reddit is trying to switch their customers from users to advertisers in order to make a profit, which is difficult after years of _generally_ serving users. It is bait and switch at it's finest and most egregious.

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

#168
post #84

Congrats on the hard work, and the idea is fine, but the problem is that tech like this is a cheap commodity in a massively oversaturated space, and without a hook that makes the platform exceptional (innovative/clever/beautiful design, unique aggregation features, inherently interesting content, reimagined user/content/moderation dynamics etc etc), this kind of thing is dead in the water because it lacks a network e…

100% agree with everything said here. My original plan was to pay for ~100 users accounts and seed the site with content for a proper launch. Given what's happening today though, it felt at least pertinent to show off the current state and get some feedback. The balance between splash page on landing / landing on content is a hard one, but I think you're right. I am worried though that without conveying the initial b…

For sure - striking the right design balance is tough. If it were me, I'd try to keep content in the user's face as much as possible, and maybe inform the user about the unique value-add with non-intrusive sidebars, header/footers or system generated PMs.

It's not easy, and the value of an expert UX designer really shines when walking the tight-rope between informing and annoying your users.

Also, consider investing in reliable A/B testing infrastructure if you haven't already. One of the biggest mistakes I've seen is trying to grow a product while driving half-blind based on napkin sql queries as metrics. Understand who is using the site, how often, when they are experiencing errors, and which types of changes actually encourage growth KPIs - but be careful, loading up the site with 3rd party trackers and intrusive js will introduce bugs and kill site performance - another balancing act hehe.

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

#169

The idea of posters getting real money instead of fake internet points when their posts do well seems interesting, but maybe an unintentional experiment in unintended consequences. Moderation will be extremely important to prevent low-effort memes and content regurgitation and the like from saturating your main channels. Have you considered how you will encourage moderation and keep it free from the corrosive influen…

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Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

#170
This seems like a great idea, I'd consider popping in and registering but I would have to wonder how you would handle things like NSFW content?

I don't know what payment processor you're using but I have to assume it'd fall prey to the same issues that onlyfans and others had.

What about keeping objectively terrible content off the platform? I won't name it but we all know what I'm talking about.

I think spelling out API usage from the get-go would be a good idea.

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