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Re: Reddit.com appears to be having an outage

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Post by lukifer »

thakoppno wrote: post #483
FormerBandmate wrote: post #422

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Freedom of speech is a legal concept that clearly doesn't cover CSAM. Free speech is a principle but it also doesn't cover CSAM. Fire in a crowded theater doesn't actually work as a legal defense but obscenity does

> Fire in a crowded theater doesn't actually work as a legal defense It may actually be a defense. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shouting_fire_in_a_crowded_the...

As discussed ITA, that case was later overturned; and it’s worth remembering that its origin was as an analogy to justify criminalizing pamphleteering against the draft [0] (one could not imagine a more salient example of “political speech”)

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schenck_v._United_States

Re: Reddit.com appears to be having an outage

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Post by HaZeust »

yosito wrote: post #465
lazycouchpotato wrote: post #384

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Deimos, former Reddit admin and creator of tildes.net currently thinks they're related: https://tildes.net/~tech/163e/reddit_appears_to_be_down_duri... EDIT: Reddit themselves confirmed that the outage was related to subs going private. > “A significant number of subreddits shifting to private caused some expected stability issues, and we’ve been working on resolving the anticipated issue,” said Reddit spokesperson T…

How does one get a user account on Tildes?

Be invited by a pre-existing user.

Re: Reddit.com appears to be having an outage

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Post by bombcar »

hn_go_brrrrr wrote: post #346
nicce wrote: post #195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

An alternative conspiracy theory: put Reddit down for two days to hide the existence of the protests from major users. E.g. many Google searches lead into private communities now. Word is spreading.

"You can't take us down! We'll take _ourselves_ down, so there."

If people see the dead reddit dude they just assume it broke and come back later.

If they see a "this sub is private because reddit is dumb and also evil" they may come back later, they may not.

Re: Reddit.com appears to be having an outage

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Post by Sai_ »

nkohari wrote: post #398
comprev wrote: post #304

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As others have said, it's Slashdot - which got it's name from trying to spell out the web address over the phone. Silly and confusing... h..t..t..p..colon..slash..slash..slashdot..dot..org When you see "Hacker News Hug" on here (recently due to Cloudflare's issues) or Reddit's "Hug of Death", the original was "Slashdotted", when tech people hosted personal sites on their _own_ home DSL (even Dial-up via Dynamic DNS!)…

Isn't Slashdot a reference to the current directory in Linux?

Dot is the current directory.

With ~, ~/. could mean your home directory if your shell recognises ~ as $HOME.

Don’t think /. aka slashdot has any intrinsic meaning in Linux.

Re: Reddit.com appears to be having an outage

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Post by wahnfrieden »

dionidium wrote: post #315
roncesvalles wrote: post #284

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I mean it's also worth noting that spez was CEO of Reddit and subreddits like that were allowed to exist for many, many more years.

And it would in turn be worth noting that the creators of reddit had a philosophical and political commitment to free speech that drove their light-touch approach to moderation. It's not like the existence of that subreddit is evidence of an endorsement on their part.

dionidium, dedicated defender of promoted jailbait access and hosting

Re: Reddit.com appears to be having an outage

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Post by burnte »

jallen_dot_dev wrote: post #451
r0bbbo wrote: post #6

Lots of speculation on Twitter about this—a failed attempt to re-open all closed subreddits and instate their own moderators. I can't imagine it'd be that, although I do enjoy the conspiracy, and more likely they were using the window of reduced traffic to make some larger changes and they went awry

Wild guess: visiting a private sub requires an extra call to a service/db to check if the user can view it. Normally there are only a small number of these checks because private subs were usually small communities. Now, many large subs having switched private is causing some poor mircoservice somewhere to get hammered.

My personal guess is it's down on purpose so they can say only 5% of subs who said they would go dark actually did, we just happened to have a service outage that day so they can push their own narrative t investors. Spez doesn't care anymore, he's focused on that IPO payday and to tell with everyone else. He's a liability to the company now, but the board isn't acting.

Re: Reddit.com appears to be having an outage

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Post by arp242 »

Ajedi32 wrote: post #391
roncesvalles wrote: post #329

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Lascivious pictures of clothed children count as CSAM in many jurisdictions. Free speech is fine but did they not have lawyers until 2015?

This is partly why I now prefer the term "free exchange of ideas" over "freedom of speech". I believe it more closely captures the essence of what makes free speech worth protecting, while also conveniently excluding stuff like this (among other things, like spam or antisocial behavior).

Wouldn't that potentially also exclude "obscene" things such as nudity? Or things like flag burning, or provocative art?

Re: Reddit.com appears to be having an outage

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Post by bithaze »

SkyMarshal wrote: post #319
nullityrofl wrote: post #311

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Yeah, I'm also US West Coast and I only ever use old.reddit or BaconReader. The Reddit Status Twitter and number of people responding to you confirm this isn't an isolated incident, though.

Your reddit status link is showing outages about twice monthly fwiw. But yeah clearly others have a different experience with this. I wonder why.

Semi-frequently, I see outages that go unreported on the status page. They used to have error rate and backlog depth graphs on their status page too so it was obvious (in a good, transparent way) when they were having issues even if a human hadn't (yet) updated the status page, but those graphs were removed.

Re: Reddit.com appears to be having an outage

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Post by rangledangle »

nicce wrote: post #195
r0bbbo wrote: post #6

Lots of speculation on Twitter about this—a failed attempt to re-open all closed subreddits and instate their own moderators. I can't imagine it'd be that, although I do enjoy the conspiracy, and more likely they were using the window of reduced traffic to make some larger changes and they went awry

An alternative conspiracy theory: put Reddit down for two days to hide the existence of the protests from major users. E.g. many Google searches lead into private communities now. Word is spreading.

This is my guess. Looks better on the record, since people are committing only 48 hours anyways (for whatever reason, should be permanent).

Re: Reddit.com appears to be having an outage

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Post by lazycouchpotato »

yosito wrote: post #465
lazycouchpotato wrote: post #384

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Deimos, former Reddit admin and creator of tildes.net currently thinks they're related: https://tildes.net/~tech/163e/reddit_appears_to_be_down_duri... EDIT: Reddit themselves confirmed that the outage was related to subs going private. > “A significant number of subreddits shifting to private caused some expected stability issues, and we’ve been working on resolving the anticipated issue,” said Reddit spokesperson T…

How does one get a user account on Tildes?

It's currently invite-only. I have a few left, but I'm not sure how to send you one privately.
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