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Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Post by inamorty »

wlesieutre wrote: post #40
idiotsecant wrote: post #32

The idea of posters getting real money instead of fake internet points when their posts do well seems interesting, but maybe an unintentional experiment in unintended consequences. Moderation will be extremely important to prevent low-effort memes and content regurgitation and the like from saturating your main channels. Have you considered how you will encourage moderation and keep it free from the corrosive influen…

Another moderation risk is that whoever is moderating has an incentive to delete people’s potentially successful posts and repost under their own or a friend’s alt account

Perhaps meta-moderation would work in this scenario? Randomly assign previous moderation choices (anonymizing the moderator) for users to rank. This could to identify moderators that are out of line. It could also lead to echo chambers though.

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Post by janalsncm »

root_axis wrote: post #36

Congrats on the hard work, and the idea is fine, but the problem is that tech like this is a cheap commodity in a massively oversaturated space, and without a hook that makes the platform exceptional (innovative/clever/beautiful design, unique aggregation features, inherently interesting content, reimagined user/content/moderation dynamics etc etc), this kind of thing is dead in the water because it lacks a network e…

On the flip side, the fact that this is a crowded space means that there’s a demand for it. And this isn’t a Reddit clone, it has a business model which is pretty close to the best anyone could hope for in my opinion. In any case, I applaud any efforts that could unseat Reddit or make them reconsider their greedy hard line.

I encourage the creator of Non.io to identify the key shortcomings of Reddit and improve upon them. Don’t just try to clone Reddit beyond the basic image/link board, otherwise you’ll just be playing their game. Change the game. There is a Folding Ideas video on this topic which has some great insights with respect to YouTube: https://youtu.be/r3snVCRo_bI

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Post by jjcm »

root_axis wrote: post #36

Congrats on the hard work, and the idea is fine, but the problem is that tech like this is a cheap commodity in a massively oversaturated space, and without a hook that makes the platform exceptional (innovative/clever/beautiful design, unique aggregation features, inherently interesting content, reimagined user/content/moderation dynamics etc etc), this kind of thing is dead in the water because it lacks a network e…

100% agree with everything said here.

My original plan was to pay for ~100 users accounts and seed the site with content for a proper launch. Given what's happening today though, it felt at least pertinent to show off the current state and get some feedback.

The balance between splash page on landing / landing on content is a hard one, but I think you're right. I am worried though that without conveying the initial business model, it'll be harder for users to understand that this isn't a direct reddit clone.

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Post by afterburner »

twic wrote: post #67
wlesieutre wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another moderation risk is that whoever is moderating has an incentive to delete people’s potentially successful posts and repost under their own or a friend’s alt account

People attach a lot of value to fake internet points, so these bad behaviours are already incentivised. What will be interesting is how they are incentivised differently . Different people attach different relative value to fake internet points and less-fake currency points, so you'll get different behaviour from different sets of people.

Well, if there's money attached, it will be guaranteed to be constantly gamed and abused.

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Post by benreesman »

root_axis wrote: post #61
benreesman wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think a lot of this is exactly the kind of constructive critique the OP is looking for, and I upvoted your comment for being high-value. But I’m currently working on being a little more diplomatic, and too often I regret throwing in low-signal “this is a tech demo” type summaries next to my substantial remarks. I hope this comes off as “fellow user working on this” and not a person in a glass house with rocks.

Yes! I made a little edit just to make it clear I'm not trying to dismiss the hard work, and even though it's a really hard space to compete in, someone has to try or there will never be alternatives.

Hey, you responded better to that feedback than I probably would have!

Serious thank you for leading the way on high-value habits I’m still working on!

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Post by graypegg »

alexb_ wrote: post #23

I feel like having people get paid for upvotes is going to create a massive amount of bad incentives.

It’s weird because people seem very motivated by imaginary internet points already. I think paying out money doesn’t actually improve anything beyond just brining in people who’s only incentive is a pay out.

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Post by jjcm »

dbcurtis wrote: post #60
idiotsecant wrote: post #32

The idea of posters getting real money instead of fake internet points when their posts do well seems interesting, but maybe an unintentional experiment in unintended consequences. Moderation will be extremely important to prevent low-effort memes and content regurgitation and the like from saturating your main channels. Have you considered how you will encourage moderation and keep it free from the corrosive influen…

I really do love the idea. But in addition to the moderation risks others have mentioned, are you prepared to issue tax documents to every jurisdiction where you might be rendering payments?

Yes ish, as currently I'm doing payouts via Stripe Connect (and likewise only paying out in countries that Stripe Connect supports, as it takes care of that aspect). Everything is theoretical until battle-tested however.
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