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The concurrence of three climatic events

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Re: The concurrence of three climatic events

#191
Not doubting any of it, but what do we know about the effects of:

1) The war in Ukraine - changes in air travel routes will affect cloud cover.

2) Wild fires in Canada - this is really huge at the moment.

3) That giant blob growing in the Atlantic Ocean.

Re: The concurrence of three climatic events

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Keep calm, carry on, adapt. Slow-moving crises are not crises, they're problems, not emergencies. ---- Here, have some literature, down-voters! ---- [1] Nine long and nearly continuous sea level records were chosen from around the world to explore rates of change in sea level for 1904–2003. These records were found to capture the variability found in a larger number of stations over the last half century studied prev…

Wake me up when the banks stop giving 30 year loans for coastline property. Who do you trust? Bankers or the "experts".

I’m guessing this is a satirical question, given the behavior of the banking industry within living memory..

Re: The concurrence of three climatic events

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Bill Gates has been buying up water reserves, has investments in polluting industries, and he's got an interest in keeping the public thinking it's "not so bad". It is. Bill Gates is also behind the "our world in data" series on youtube, that consistently misrepresents climate science to make it seem like we can solve it with enough "green industry", when the only real solution is degrowth, we can't afford to keep si…

Degrowth is not a solution. Geo-engineering is our only way out of this mess.

It is the only practical solution. The only way to get humanity's energy equation to balance is to dramatically reduce the population or dramatically reduce energy use per capita or invent and deploy a mythical free energy source within the next 30 years. And this just covers replacing black energy with green energy -- even more energy will be needed to address the climate problem.

Re: The concurrence of three climatic events

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Climate change is terrifying, but I also have a hard time taking self titled Doomers totally seriously. It makes sense to consider all of the worst case scenarios for any event, and to prepare for them. But Doomers seem to have an obsession with it, and a need to convince others that the worst will happen. I noticed this a lot in 2020. COVID was (and is) awful, but there was so much shit that Doomers claimed would ha…

Apocalyptic Ideation see also: the book of revelations There will always be people fixated on The End, some because they think we all deserve it, others because they can't seperate their own existential crisis from potential global crises

And still others because they've started looking at the pieces of how our global society functions as a system and realized that it's very possible we have pushed our environment beyond it's ability to support us. Leading ultimately to overshoot which leads to collapse.

Re: The concurrence of three climatic events

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At a certain wet bulb temp humans cannot cool themselves off - they die without access to some other means to get cool (like cold water, air conditioning, etc).

The threshold at which humans can no longer cool themselves naturally varies based on factors like health, activity, clothing and humidity. Typically, a wet-bulb temperature above 95F (35C) poses a severe risk to health, especially with high humidity. It's important to note that such extreme wet-bulb temperatures are relatively rare in most parts of the world

> extreme wet-bulb temperatures are relatively rare in most parts of the world

The concern the top-level comment has is that sooner rather than later these cases will not be as rare and so more people will become familiar with this concept.

Re: The concurrence of three climatic events

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As this post hints at in the discussion of sulfur emissions at sea, all it takes to significantly slow global warming is one country or sufficiently motivated non-state actor deciding to go all-in on geoengineering (like seeding the stratosphere with sulfur dioxides). Compare this to the collective action problem of everyone, including rapidly industrializing poorer countries, spending trillions to decarbonize their…

Sulfur dioxide + water + oxygen = sulfuric acid, which is not something you want in the atmosphere where rain clouds form.

Re: The concurrence of three climatic events

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So given this context and assuming it is accurate, where do you think would be the most viable areas to live? If I were to consider for the US, I'd say inland northern states like Wisconsin and Michigan thanks to the Great Lakes...

I made a bunch of maps to answer this question! https://www.jtolio.com/2022/07/anthropocene-calamity-part-8-...

Re: The concurrence of three climatic events

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This guy's blog is subtitled "Eliot Jacobson's Collapse of Everything Blog". Is this his schtick? Does he just say the world is ending all the time, or is what he's saying true?

Climate change is many things: - Real. - Influenced by human activity, both positively and negatively. - Difficult to study, because we only have decades of hard data for what is a phenomenon spanning eons. - A narrative pushed by Western economies to discourage economic development of the Global South and maintain hegemony. If the former were actually serious about mitigating it, it would harshly regulate planned ob…

As opposed to the narrative pushed by Western economies to encourage limited forms of economic development in the Global South, by facilitating the creation of captive markets and dependent client states? You know, the normal day-to-day economic orthodoxy the world's been running under for two hundred years?

Which one do you think is winning?

(Also, when you say the Global South, do you mean the Global South that tends to be exempt from, or subjected to less stringent carbon limitations than the developed world? Or do you mean the Global South that everyone starts complaining about as soon as I mention that maybe we should reduce our emissions...)

Re: The concurrence of three climatic events

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I am very familiar with how a wet-bulb thermometer works and some of the ways it's useful (like at altitude for weather forecasts, and as one of the ways to build a hygrometer) but I'm struggling to make the connection that you've made as to why it'll be a household term. Mind explaining?

Because a wet-bulb temperature of 35C is generally considered deadly, perhaps as low as 31C. Global warming that kills large swathes of Burma or India would be a household term I'd think.

But "heat index" is already a household term, and essentially has the same purpose [0]. It's like saying the Kelvin scale will end up in household use: I would disagree because while Kelvin is useful, it's not sufficiently more useful than C/F for most household usage.

> people cannot carry out normal outdoor activities past a wet-bulb temperature of 32 °C (90 °F), equivalent to a heat index of 55 °C (130 °F) [0]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wet-bulb_temperature

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